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The Flim Flam man will be dealt a serious blow when the truth is discovered, Has anyone ever been stripped of the prize?

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akron,

It counts for less than shit since they gave it to arafat to.

Jim,

I don't need an advanced degree in science to know that the earth warms up and the earth cools off. I don't have to prove anything, it's the liberals that want me to change my way of life to suit their doom and gloom predictions. If they want me to change, show me evidence not provided by govt funded science geeks with the personality of a door knob. It can't be 99.9%, it has to be 100% with no margin for error, if you want me to buy into this religion they're selling.

Less that happens, I'll live how I want. I already live more carbon neutral that al gore.

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Akron, I can imagine he does well in his field and is an OK guy. The facts are he cannot/will not dispute the myths I have outlined, so to deflect and not have to answer he asks for an author...UH duh, respected published scientists...does it matter if Mickey Mouse wrote them if you cannot dispute them?

He thinks acting superior and talking down to people and they will just roll over and brand him "the genius"..not gonna happen!

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you don't either, so dispute the facts IF you can, or keep posting your drivel...

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Authors.. please. And affiliations. YOU have no personal credibility on this issue. So if your authors don't, nothing you said is credible.

Authors and affiliaitons, please? And YOUR credentials for interpreting this stuff and separating fact from fiction?

Your refusal to answer these reasonable requests makes everything you have cited garbage. If you can support their claims by naming authors and affiliations, you will help your case.

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GlobalWarming Awareness2007 Myth Buster 11

Global Warming is bad for the human race.

Truth: The Warming of the earth has coincided with prosperity and development. Periods of frost or cold have caused global famine, periods of stagnation and economic recession. A warmer earth and more CO2 means more plant life, greater farm yields and worldwide prosperity. It’s quite amazing how closely economic cycles have tracked increases and decreases in the average global temperature.

More interesting thoughts on Global Warming include Apocalypse canceled its referenced pdf, and Extra Terrestrials Caused Global Warming.

And before you throw out your ad hak attacks, the one thing I can say for those two intelligent people is that are not chasing Global Warming Funding Dollars or coveting political influence. Can the same be said for whomever you site?

GlobalWarming Awareness2007 Conclusion:

The overwhelming evidence is that manmade CO2 emissions account for only a fraction of the mere 0.3-0.6 degree rise in temperature over the last 100 years – if at all. Even if mankind accounted for all of it (we don’t) and we could accurately predict (we can’t) that mankind would quadruple that temperature increase over the next 100 years (we probably couldn’t even if we wanted to), it would not be cause for concern. History has demonstrated time and time again that a warmer Earth will mean greater prosperity for mankind. So in fact, the best we can hope for is that these doomsday prophets are correct and that we will somehow raise the Earth’s temperature for the sake of our great grandchildren. Unfortunately for them, the bulk of the genuine scientific evidence suggests that these Global Warming charlatans are spouting nothing but hot air.

all easily found proofs and questions...gosh you mean there is no money in grants for debunking??

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GlobalWarming Awareness2007 Myth Buster 6

CO2 is the most significant Greenhouse Gas in Earth’s Atmosphere.

Truth: More than 95% of the “Greenhouse Gas” effect comes from water vapor.

Water vapor constitutes Earth’s most significant greenhouse gas, accounting for about 95% of Earth’s greenhouse effect (4). Interestingly, many “facts and figures’ regarding global warming completely ignore the powerful effects of water vapor in the greenhouse system, carelessly (perhaps, deliberately) overstating human impacts as much as 20-fold.

Water vapor is 99.999% of natural origin. Other atmospheric greenhouse gases, carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), and miscellaneous other gases (CFC’s, etc.), are also mostly of natural origin (except for the latter, which is mostly anthropogenic).

GlobalWarming Awareness2007 Myth Buster 7

Only Bible Banging Creationist and big oil lobbyist deny anthropogenic CO2 emissions are causing significant global warming.

I am an Atheist leaning agnostic. Evolution is as good as fact in my book; there is no missing link. I don’t own a dime in oil stocks and have never worked for nor received any money from any lobbying group. I’m neither anti-environment nor against renewable energy ideas like Biodiesel or Solar Tower power stations. The world could go 100% solar powered tomorrow and I’d stay just as happy as a pig in shit.

GlobalWarming Awareness2007 Myth Buster 8

So and so says it’s true so it must be

Truth: Follow the money. In Science there is a saying “No Problem, no funding.”

I’ve read what the Royal Society has published about anthropogenic global warming. It’s an embarrassment: nothing but conjecture, glad-handing, postulates and guesses. Where is the Science?!? Where is the evidence that concretely demonstrates that an X increase in atmospheric CO2 leads to a temperature increase of FunctionX on a planetary scale? Nowhere! Because this type of evidence simply does not exist. All we have are rigged computer models that fail at even the most rudimentary attempts to predict climate or weather changes and “scientists” referencing those models as if they were somehow bastions of truth and authority.

GlobalWarming Awareness2007 Myth Buster 9 Human caused C02 emissions will cause a temperature increase that will melt the ice caps and flood all coastlines in the next 50-100 years.

I call Bullshit.

When someone can predict the temperature range (high and low) for the 50 largest cites in the world 30 days out to within a half of a degree of accuracy, then maybe I’ll listen to what they have to say about the average global temperature 50 years from now. Until then, we’ll just have to agree to disagree about whether or not these climatologists and meteorologist know what the hell they’re talking about.

You think these scientists can see 100 years into the future? 100 years ago, there was a different environmental concern. People worried that we needed to come up with a solution for all the horse shit from the increase in the number of horse and buggy carriages in major cities. Here are some of the great predictions of the past.

Trying to predict what’s going to happen even this year is an exercise in futility. Remember how 2006 was supposed to be the biggest hurricane season on record? How’d that prediction turn out? Thinking that one can predict 100 years into the future goes beyond the wildest stretches of absurdity into pure insanity. Alas! Fools seem to love giving these psychics their money; nothing I say is going to stop them.

For me, I’ll put my money where my mouth is and buy some nice beachfront property. Why don’t you global warming zealots put your money where your mouth is and buy a nice cabin in the mountains somewhere? Then in 50 years we’ll look at whose property is worth more to see who was right.

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GlobalWarming Awareness2007 Myth Buster 5 Receding Ice Sheets is proof that anthropogenic Global Warming is occurring.

Truth: Here are some photos showing the shrinking of Glacial Ice Sheets.

They sure look like they are shrinking, don’t they? Problem is, those are pictures of the Glacial Ice Caps on Mars. Yes, they are shrinking, but one could hardly argue it’s because of some US soccer mom driving an SUV. There are no humans on Mars.

Caltech planetary scientists have been keeping a close eye on the dozens of deep, wide pits in the southern martian ice caps. These pits have been growing larger every year, but they never get any deeper.

The scientists believe this means that there is a layer of dry ice that is evaporating off of a thicker layer of water ice. The yearly increases in evaporation may be caused by A global warming trend happening on Mars (Source NASA)

The residual martian south polar cap is changing. The fact that it is changing suggests that Mars may have major, global climate changes that are occurring on the same time scales as Earth’s most recent climate shifts, including the last Ice Age.

If both Mars and Earth are experiencing global warming, then perhaps there is a larger phenomenon going on in the Solar System that is causing their global climates to change.

Yea – like maybe the sun is a little bit hotter and brighter?

So, we know the sun is getting hotter. We know that it is warmer on Mars. It is also warmer on Earth. How does one look at those facts and come up with “I think the Earth is warmer because Jane drives a Hummer”? Get a grip people!

If there is Global Warming on Mars, doesn’t that indicate that a significant portion, if not all, of the 0.3-0.6 degree C increase in the Earth’s average temperature over the last 100 years is being caused by the sun or other cosmic forces that have nothing to do with humans?

Oh and by the way, Earth’s Antarctic Ice sheet is actually growing.

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When you follow the money and politics, it’s easy to see why this charade of smoke and mirrors is occurring. The “why” of the scam is a thesis in and of itself. However, it’s more important for Global Warming Awareness 2007 to shed the light of truth on the debate to dispel many of the myths surrounding the climate change debate. Grab your popcorn or delicious this for later, because we have a few “incontinent Truths” of our own to cover and this is gonna take a while.

Global Warming Awareness 2007, Here comes the Science . . . GlobalWarming Awareness2007 Myth Buster 1.

The Earth is 1, 2, 5 or 10 degrees warmer than it was 100 years ago.

Truth: At most we’ve had an average 0.6 degree C (and probably closer to 0.3 degree C) increase over the last 100 years.

GlobalWarming Awareness2007 Myth Buster 2.

“I know Anthropogenic Global Warming is occurring because it’s warmer here in _____. I know it’s warmer, I can feel it.”

Truth: Just because it may be warmer where you are, doesn’t mean that the Earth’s temperature is changing globally; and it certainly does not mean that any climate change is occurring because of anthropogenic CO2 emissions. Anecdotal testimonials in a microcosm are not scientifically valid.

As we pointed out, the average global temperature increase has been between 0.3-0.6 degrees over the last hundred years. That works out to 0.003-0.006 degrees per year; a change that is certainly imperceptible without instruments.

GlobalWarming Awareness2007 Myth Buster 3 CO2 levels and the average Global Temperatures are near all time highs in Earths history.

Truth: We have records of CO2 and temperatures going back *millions* of years, and we presently have some of the lowest CO2 levels in the same amount of time; before now, CO2 levels have been several orders of magnitude higher… all without human intervention. Also, the earth’s temperature was dramatically warmer. Guess what, doomsayers? The earth has natural CO2/temperature cycles and climate science is only just now starting to put some of the bigger pieces of the puzzle together.

Check out Milankovitch Cycles to learn more about these natural cycles.

GlobalWarming Awareness2007 Myth Buster 4. There is evidence that a rise in CO2 has led to a rise in Global Temperatures throughout millions of years of the Earth’s history.

Truth: Here is the graph of Temperature levels and CO2 Levels.

The double graph, reproduced below lists CO2 concentration above temperature: but, if the two graphs were superimposed at sufficient scale, as is customary when comparing such similar curves, changes in temperature would be seen to precede changes in CO2 concentration by 400 to 4,000 years.

Can anyone explain to me why CO2 level rising lags about 800 years behind the temperature rises?

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Claims of significant anthropogenic global warming due to CO2 emissions are either overblown or completely unfounded. The greatest scientific fraud in the history of mankind is this “Global Warming / Climate Change” tandem. Any doomsday scenarios concocted on these theories are a scientific embarrassment that have as much credibility as Creationism, Refrigerator Gnomes, or the Late Iraqi Information Minister.

The Global Warming scam was designed to 1. Scare people into giving time, money and power to charlatan scientists and sham politicians 2. Dramatically increase the size and scope of government and proliferate a worldwide socialist agenda 3. Oppress developing Nations

Sadly, the scam is working.

This fraud was dreamed up by intellectually dishonest scientific professionals coveting government grant money: Was latched on to by politicians and political groups that seek to expand their own influence as well as the size and scope of government and is perpetuated by the ignorant masses who do not have the capacity to refute what Hitler coined the “The Big Lie.”

Billions of dollars in taxes, private donations and political contributions are raised every year to fight the global warming boogieman. This sham has taken many otherwise intelligent and good intentioned people and turned them into quasi-religious zealots on a crusade for a bigger, more intrusive, more powerful world government.

The path to hell is paved with good intentions.

* Al Gore is trying to resurrect his political life with Global Warming Scare Mongering. * Virgin CEO Richard Branson has pledged $3 Billion to fight global warming. * Billions of Taxpayer and education dollars are wasted each year in the name of global warming. * People like to believe in significant anthropogenic global warming because it makes them feel good and lulls them into a sense of intellectually superiority.

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