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TOPIC: Hate Crime Legislation, A Good Thing or Unfairly Applied

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This is one of MANY reason and examples I dislike Hate Crime Legislation. 4 Hate-Crime Beating Teens Get Probation Friday, February 2, 2007 9:14 PM EST The Associated Press By NOAKI SCHWARTZ LONG BEACH, Calif. (AP) — Four of nine black teenagers convicted in the racially charged beating of three white women on Halloween were sentenced to probation Friday. Punishment could have ranged up to confinement in a California Youth Authority lockup until age 25. The teens were ordered to serve 250 hours of community service, 60 days house arrest, and take anger management and racial tolerance programs. "It was an awful crime. Terrible, emotional and physical injuries," Juvenile Court Judge Gibson Lee said. Last week, Lee convicted nine teens — eight female and one male — of felony assault, with a hate-crime enhancement against all but one. Among those sentenced Friday were an 18-year-old youth, his twin sister, their 16-year-old sister — who didn't receive the hate-crime enhancement — and another 16-year-old girl. The other five defendants face sentencing next week. Names of the defendants were withheld because they are juveniles or were juveniles at the time and were tried as juveniles. (CONTINUED.....)

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This is one of MANY reason and examples I dislike Hate Crime Legislation.

4 Hate-Crime Beating Teens Get Probation
Friday, February 2, 2007 9:14 PM EST
The Associated Press
By NOAKI SCHWARTZ

LONG BEACH, Calif. (AP) — Four of nine black teenagers convicted in the racially charged beating of three white women on Halloween were sentenced to probation Friday.

Punishment could have ranged up to confinement in a California Youth Authority lockup until age 25. The teens were ordered to serve 250 hours of community service, 60 days house arrest, and take anger management and racial tolerance programs.

"It was an awful crime. Terrible, emotional and physical injuries," Juvenile Court Judge Gibson Lee said.

Last week, Lee convicted nine teens — eight female and one male — of felony assault, with a hate-crime enhancement against all but one.

Among those sentenced Friday were an 18-year-old youth, his twin sister, their 16-year-old sister — who didn't receive the hate-crime enhancement — and another 16-year-old girl.

The other five defendants face sentencing next week. Names of the defendants were withheld because they are juveniles or were juveniles at the time and were tried as juveniles.  (CONTINUED.....)

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User Details are only visible to members.	Calling folks fascist is as bad a using race metaphor's. And trust me BOY I know what a Fascist is. And the boy is not in a racist tone it goes to your Maturity
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User Details are only visible to members.	Akron, I think most of us are more sensitive when we receive criticism from those we respect versus those we do not. I too, would be more thin skinned if my position was being devalued or made fun of by StPete, 2inVT, Perfect, Poly, Debjack, Gary or you (just to name a few). In most other cases, I simply roll my eyes and don't take it personally, as many posters overall positions and beliefs are so contrary to mine it does not provoke any personal hurt feelings or disappointment.
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User Details are only visible to members.	A black facsist funny how that works out.
Saint Louis MO			Username hidden (12119 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	So calling someone a Fascist or fascist wannabe is a Hate crime... Just like calling someone the N word or and other racist metaphor. You see by using such words make you a racist. And when using such words in a derogatory way is hatred for some one political beliefs.
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User Details are only visible to members.	YY the post you made in the other thread shows you are not a conservative. You are a flaming lib. I am not religious I am spiritual. We already gave this country away to you libs. High crime, have all the kids you want you don't need to work we will support you, This country is turning into a welfare country thanks to people like you. We can work as hard as possible but will never get ahead because you libs think our earnings should help the lazy baby factories out their. My guess is you never served this country in any way other than trying to run it into the ground. We conservatives don't cry as much as you crybabies,we just sit on the sidelines and watch. Remember this real Americans fought for this country once and we will do it again.
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User Details are only visible to members.	Hate crime legislation is not being used as its intended purpose.It was to insure that people of all races be protected. I will use an example.Confederate flag ,pickup truck and whites in the truck , beating on non white. Does also apply to religion.This is just an example.harsh but a true example. Now it is being used when it is most beneficial to grab newspaper headlines. History has shown any legislation that has been drawn up to force equality whether it be for punishment,ratios has failed .People find loop holes,drag it to a new level for which it was not intended
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User Details are only visible to members.	Yinyang wrote: "I have found that this world is not a fair place. SOMETIMES you will catch a bad shake for reasons that you cannot even control. Really, the only time you can complain to that is where there is no REALISTIC way around it, and there is some LEGITIMATE person, place, or process to blame. Here, I do not offer that. One can avoid being charged with a hate crime, by simply avoiding the "crime" part of their actions. Not that tough to do." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please do not take this wrong, as I am not making fun of you....but, some of the above sounds like "conservative" views.
Minden NV			Username hidden (4041 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Thought about that prayer in the GWB Corporate America thread.
Fayetteville GA			Username hidden (2075 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Awe hate crimes... DING DING DING Round one...In the case below the law is clear and the youts were found guilty of hate crimes and the statuets are clear. But should they exist is the obvious question here. My view is they should be a special cercumstance to a crime but not the crime, ie. using a gun in the commision of a crime. A conviction for assault first offense is 3 years in prison, But if your motive is hate for a race, sex and or preference, you get 3 years in prison for a total of 6 years. Abuse of power by police 2 years and if special cricumstance 2 years additional will be added. Giving punishment for the crime of hate is too vast by its self.
Saint Louis MO			Username hidden (12119 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Basic Law Enforcement - What is the one element of a crime that neither the investigators nor those who prosecute someone for said crime have to prove or even address? Answer: Motive Hate Crime scares me because it is thought policing, and we can never know for sure WHAT a persons true motives were. The charges AND punishment should fit the crime, NOT what you think someone thought. Going back to the article I started this thread with. If the victims would of been gay, black, hispanic etc, and the perpetrators white and male, past sentencing of similar incidents suggest that probation would NOT have taken place. Real jail and/or prison time would of been part of the sentencing.
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