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On a sad note, in my 40 plus years career in the criminal justice world, I worked hand in hand with many psychiatrist, clinical psychologist, sociologist, criminologist, and other mental health professionals. Many of them were "nut jobs". But, I had to listen to them for their input in my investigations and dealings with the situations and their notes to saved my ass in federal court many times. Two of the "psychiatric professionals", of which I knew personally, committed suicide. Just food for thought.

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ZZ... You're preaching to the choir my friend. I am VERY familiar with the NICS, FFL and the "Brady Bill" when it comes to buying guns legally. I'm a law abiding citizen and gun owner and know how to buy/own a gun legally. I really don't object to background checks for the most part of it when it comes to buying/selling guns legally.

I can't, and won't, speak for the other pro 2nd amendment rights people here but what does it take to get on the "NO SALE" list with NICS. Hell, you and I both qualify as "nut jobs".

Is it the parent who witnessed the tragic accident of their child, who died bleeding to death in their arms, reaching out for professional help from a clinical psychologist (Doctorate level) or psychiatrist to deal with the depression and emotional trauma?

Is it the person that was arrested and convicted 30 years ago for possession of marijuana and hasn't even had a traffic ticket sense then? Now has a functioning, well adjusted, family and is coaching little league and is active in 4H and FFA and is a school mentor?

Is it the 18 year old kid, 10 years ago, who got caught having sex with his 16 year old girlfriend and was convicted of "statutory rape" and now, 10 years later, has to register as a "sex offender" in many states? ( This subject is altogether different, in my perspective, from other sex crimes)

For the record, I'm all for "legally" keeping guns out of the hands of most felons, the mentally ill, and especially terrorist. The problem is that the government CAN NOT do that. No matter how many laws or executive orders. Laws and executive orders only effect/restrict the law abiding. Not the ones that the law/order was intended for.

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The National Instant Criminal Background Check System, or NICS, is all about saving lives and protecting people from harm—by not letting guns fall into the wrong hands. It also ensures the timely transfer of firearms to eligible gun buyers.

Mandated by the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act of 1993 and launched by the FBI on November 30, 1998, NICS is used by Federal Firearms Licensees (FFLs) to instantly determine whether a prospective buyer is eligible to buy firearms. Before ringing up the sale, cashiers call in a check to the FBI or to other designated agencies to ensure that each customer does not have a criminal record or isn’t otherwise ineligible to make a purchase. More than 100 million such checks have been made in the last decade, leading to more than 700,000 denials.

{So this is how 'liberals' weakened an American citizens self-defense capability, >nudisttom<?}

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~~Laugh, laugh, I thought I'd die; it seemed so funny to me. Bringing Chris Kyle's wife into the 'self-defense' debate, when her husband, the American sniper of movie fame [Clint's boy] died on a shooting range, failing to defend himself. Those 'liberals' you claim have weakened laws against gun ownership really caused that, then, in your Wayne's World Way of offering an explanation or solution! I can follow the illogic in that.

It's Sangria time in south Florida. Think I'll go down to the waterfront bar and watch the gulls and pelicans glide over the surf, and laugh some more about those 'liberals' who have denied gun owners their privilege of defending themselves against death at an early age.~~

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How well has the federal "RICO ACT" of 1970 worked to subdue organized crime, save lives of the American youth, lowered drug/gun trafficking, prevent future organized crimes, prevent gang related "drive by" shootings etc, etc, etc.

Yes, it made for more harsh criminal penalties for these crimes but it was not a deterrent to those criminal activities. Obviously

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IMO, curtailing violence, by guns or otherwise, will never be controlled by government laws. It starts with "We the People" as outlined in the U.S. Constitution. The constitution puts that responsibility back on the state. Not the government.

It first begins with proper parenting and teaching ethics and responsibility. Next, it includes community involvement. Programs to involve neighborhoods, schools, towns/cities, counties and all state jurisdictions to mold the lives and thinking of the American youths.

Thanks to the Liberals, corporal punishment, by parents or schools, is now out of the question unless you are willing to go to prison for child abuse to teach and raise your child to respect others and their rights. Neighbors are reluctant to "blow the whistle" on bullies to other parents out of fear that it might become an "ethnic" issue. School teachers and administrators are reluctant to get involved with issues of troubled kids because the parents make excuses for their child's behaviors. Drugs are the answer to raising kids, not a good spanking when they need it. BTW, I hate child abuse in any form. But, a good spanking for wrong doings did me a would of good as well as my kids and grandkids. I was even spanked by neighbors that were quick to call my parents and tell them why. It takes a village to raise to raise a child.

Now that we don't have the "village" to raise or kids, what do we do??? The government with more gun laws is not the answer. Any more than more child abuse or drug laws are effective. To solve the problem starts with the family, community and state. Let's put the tax dollars there to identify the problems and correct them. Laws are already in place. They are just not enforced.

The same applies to illegal immigration laws. IMO

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BTW ZZ. My ribs are hurting from laughing so hard but, I have to ask, did Tom Selleck, Robert Duvall, Clint Eastwood or Sam Elliott happen to sign that letter? If so, you have my attention and I owe you three drinks.

Also, don't let Obama get word that you have an "emergency flare gun" on board your sailing vessel. Or a "spear gun" for fishing. In the cinema world those are some bad ass weapons capable of mass destruction.

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ROTFLMAO!!!!!!! I owe you two drinks now ZZ. Thanks.

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January 08, 2016 [Brady Campaign News]

*Business, Entertainment and Creative Community Leaders Applaud the President’s Leadership on Background Checks*

More than 100 leaders from the business, entertainment and creative communities signed a letter to President Barack Obama today applauding his leadership and courage in issuing an Executive Action that expands Brady background checks. Signees include Jessica Alba, Bradley Cooper, Nick Cannon, Arianna Huffington, Ron Meyer, Will Ferrell, Julianna Margulies, and many more.

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Taya Kyle, the widow of "American Sniper" Chris Kyle, asked President Barack Obama his first question on live national television Thursday night during the President's "Gun's in America" town hall on CNN.

Chris Kyle's wife told President Obama that gun control won't make us safer - as she penned earlier Thursday in an op-ed.

"I want the hope that I have the right to protect myself," Kyle said in response to the rise in gun sales under Obama.

Mrs. Kyle further cast doubt on Obama's notion that background checks would prevent mass murders.

"I know background checks wouldn't stop me from getting a gun, but I also know that it wouldn't stop any of the people in this room from killing...it's a false sense of hope," she said.

"Why not celebrate that we're good people and that 99.9% of us are not going to kill anyone?" Kyle concluded.

Fox 5 reporter and gun rights activist, Emily Miller, tweeted, "Chris Kyle's widow is amazing to stand up to Pres. Obama on live national TV and make powerful argument. She's so impressive."

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