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Tbr, If the Bill of Rights concerning Amendments 1 and 3 to 10 have been proven to be individual rights then why would the Second Amendment not be an individual right? It makes no sense.

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Yet according to the news reports when it happened, the school principal defended the student saying he was just showing pride in his heritage. I will go as far to say that with the media misrepresenting facts where they see fit the principals comments may have been edited or placed to support the student.

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tbr,

Split hairs all you want. Those issues have been resolved. THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE... to me in my nonlawyer, non conveluted thinking means "the people" "not the states or federal govt".

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OK.

I could split hairs with you over who was considered a person when the document was written, but I won't.

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TBR,

I don't thinkt he intent of the founders is hard to discern at all. "the right of the people". That appears in the first amendment also. You don't see people saying "we have to ban free speech,assemly and restricting the regress of greivences. The "right of the people" is the phrase you need to focus on.

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The russians were terrified about invading us. It's simply not doable. We could've given ground to the rockies and picked them off one and a time. made their whole afghanistan thing look like a day at the park. the other probelm with occupying a country that is armed, professionals soldier will give you quarter when you surrender.... the populace will probably be alot less forgiving. "geneva convention? never heard of it... BANG!!!"

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Sweet,

http: // www*snopes*com/photos/politics/mexicoflag*asp

While this did happen, to use the term "allow" implies that school officials supported and agreed with the action. As the above link shows, that is not the case.

As to discipline, it is illegal for a school district in California to publicly release disciplinary actions towards minors. School records in general are very, very regulated at the local, state, and federal levels.

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TBR if you truly believe there are too many laws, then we agree that is a problem. Obviously people are not so creative at solving all problems, because most people I think recognize this one exists. Yet not only does it exist, it flourishes and grows. What I'd like to see is some more Americans working to reverse this particular problematic trend, which doesn't appear to be happening. We're not as smart as we'd like to think we are apparently.

If you accept the premise that there are too many laws, then you accept the premise there is too much government. You've taken your first baby steps toward acknowledging your politically conservative self. It's in all of us. And there's and egalitarian socialist liberal in all of us. And a Libertarian anarchist anti-statist in all of us too. It all depends on just which direction you feel compelled to head with your ideals, and just how far you're willing to carry them to their ultimate conclusions.

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I'll throw you another one, ER.

As a dyed in the wool liberal, I think we probably have too many laws on the books overall. Everywhere you look there are conflicting, overlapping laws that really should be streamlined, or gotten rid of.

IMHO, the problem with this approach, our blessing and curse if you will, is that humans are too damn creative ;-). Present them with a problem, they will solve it. That's good. Present them with a restriction, they will figure out a way around it. Not always good.

So you get laws that are so proscriptive that they really can not be enforced.

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"I'm just not sure where that reasoning goes when Liberals get outraged over the US taking preemptive action against demonstrably whacko gov'ts who seek to gain weapons that could easly kill many innocent Americans."

It's a valid point as well. Legitimate actions to prevent those whacko governments from becoming potentially too dangerous is okay with me. Diplomacy, trade, giving their innocent citizenry and alternative by being true defenders of liberty and freedom, and making them envious of democracy are all legitimate means of destabilizing whacko governments. Showing their people that we are truly empathetic to their plights, and that we're not out to steal their resources or eviscerate their religious beliefs or to make them clones of our own system of values are also good courses.

What I despise is when our own leaders lie to us, tell us they hate us for our freedoms, tell us they're building nukes and have caches of WMDs and are an eminent threat ready to kill us at a moments notice, then declare war, invade, overthrow regimes, and come up empty handed on all the previous claims they made about said weapons, get our soldiers killed, kill tens of thousands of innocent people in the process, spend trillions of dollars and empty government coffers damn near bankrupting the nation, and bog us down in unwinnable situations outside our own country while our own cities get flooded, residential neighborhoods burned to a crisp by wildfires, and our own bridges collapse into rivers ... and for what? Shoddy politics .....

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El Rancho HS, Whittier Union HS and Montebello HS in Montebello CA One student was punished. But no one will release what that punishment was.

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