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the only restriction that needs to be placed on gun ownership is that if you're a criminal you can't own one. Well maybe if you're a liberal you shouldn't own one either. Liberals tend to be unstable and like to stand infront of places with signs... I wouldnt want those nuts armed.

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I make no claim that the 2nd amendment is individual or collective.

I have no problem with ownership of guns, with some restrictions.

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Tbr, If the Bill of Rights concerning Amendments 1 and 3 to 10 have been proven to be individual rights then why would the Second Amendment not be an individual right? It makes no sense.

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Yet according to the news reports when it happened, the school principal defended the student saying he was just showing pride in his heritage. I will go as far to say that with the media misrepresenting facts where they see fit the principals comments may have been edited or placed to support the student.

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tbr,

Split hairs all you want. Those issues have been resolved. THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE... to me in my nonlawyer, non conveluted thinking means "the people" "not the states or federal govt".

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OK.

I could split hairs with you over who was considered a person when the document was written, but I won't.

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TBR,

I don't thinkt he intent of the founders is hard to discern at all. "the right of the people". That appears in the first amendment also. You don't see people saying "we have to ban free speech,assemly and restricting the regress of greivences. The "right of the people" is the phrase you need to focus on.

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The russians were terrified about invading us. It's simply not doable. We could've given ground to the rockies and picked them off one and a time. made their whole afghanistan thing look like a day at the park. the other probelm with occupying a country that is armed, professionals soldier will give you quarter when you surrender.... the populace will probably be alot less forgiving. "geneva convention? never heard of it... BANG!!!"

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Sweet,

http: // www*snopes*com/photos/politics/mexicoflag*asp

While this did happen, to use the term "allow" implies that school officials supported and agreed with the action. As the above link shows, that is not the case.

As to discipline, it is illegal for a school district in California to publicly release disciplinary actions towards minors. School records in general are very, very regulated at the local, state, and federal levels.

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TBR if you truly believe there are too many laws, then we agree that is a problem. Obviously people are not so creative at solving all problems, because most people I think recognize this one exists. Yet not only does it exist, it flourishes and grows. What I'd like to see is some more Americans working to reverse this particular problematic trend, which doesn't appear to be happening. We're not as smart as we'd like to think we are apparently.

If you accept the premise that there are too many laws, then you accept the premise there is too much government. You've taken your first baby steps toward acknowledging your politically conservative self. It's in all of us. And there's and egalitarian socialist liberal in all of us. And a Libertarian anarchist anti-statist in all of us too. It all depends on just which direction you feel compelled to head with your ideals, and just how far you're willing to carry them to their ultimate conclusions.

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I'll throw you another one, ER.

As a dyed in the wool liberal, I think we probably have too many laws on the books overall. Everywhere you look there are conflicting, overlapping laws that really should be streamlined, or gotten rid of.

IMHO, the problem with this approach, our blessing and curse if you will, is that humans are too damn creative ;-). Present them with a problem, they will solve it. That's good. Present them with a restriction, they will figure out a way around it. Not always good.

So you get laws that are so proscriptive that they really can not be enforced.

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