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If you have a dog in your house your more likely to get bit by a dog than someone who doesn't have a dog in their house. Now that science.

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I was just speculating that there are likely many confounding factors, probably dealt with in your references. The statement you made would lead simple minds to conclude that the act of bringing a gun into a house independent of pre-existing factors doubles the rate of people being shot.

If that were the case, removal of all guns would result in a decline of people being shot by 50%, which is logically impossible.

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The good thing about science is that it's true whether you believe in it or not.

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Or maybe The Accessibility of Firearms and Risk for Suicide and Homicide Victimization among Household Members: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis. Annalso of Internal Medicine, Volume 160, number 2.

Either would be good.

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See Guns in the Home and Risk of a Violent Death in the Home: Findings from a National Study in the American Journal of Epidemiology, Volume 160, Issue 10, pages 929-936...

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Hi Tom, welcome back.

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tbr made no allusion to a causal relationship, although most people would infer one, probably by reasoning that it makes it easier for family members to shoot each other. I would imagine that to at least some extent that that is true.

As is (aggravatingly) common, the factors are complex. I would guess that having a gun in your house is probably at least something of an indicator that your situation is a higher risk one already, such as living in crap neighborhood, or regularly hanging out with druggies or gang members.

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@tbr. I swore off of political forums. but I can't help but ask you a question stimulated from your last post here. I respect you as a learned man. A scholar. You make some very interesting post. Some make good points, but I don't usually agree. But the last one here makes no sense to me. "You are twice as likely to be a victim of a homicide in your home if you have a gun in your home". Where did you come up with that BS. I know you don't approve of guns and support gun control. That's your prerogative.

But I have questions:

#1 If I have butcher knives in my home, am I twice as likely to be stabbed to death????

#2 If I have baseball bats in my home, am I twice as likely to be beat to death???

#3 Have you ever played the game "Clue" and tried to figure out what the murder weapon was.

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Well, you were doing just great until you started typing.

You are twice as likely to be a victim of a homicide in your home if there is a gun in your home.

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Those without Firearms will work for those who do....Sometimes those without will become victims of criminals. Those without firearms are more likely to be murdered at the hands of Evil people.

Those without Firearms are more easily controlled and sometimes enslaved by those who do....

So which side of the equation do you want to be on?

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