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@good can you by the the weapons that are on the F-16? No, that is my point is not being able to buy the weapons should be against the 2nd amendment according to the constitution. Right? Or do we use common sense not to allow public citizens to not be able to own or possess the weapons on a fighter jet.

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How did I miss this one...?

"So like I said before why don't people that could afford a f-16 fully loaded have one in their front yard since the 2nd is about the right to bear arms?"

I certainly can't afford a fully loaded F-16 (minimum of $7,000/hour to fly). If I could, I certainly wouldn't keep it in my front yard. If you wanna partner on an F-16, I might consider it. You buy, I'll fly.

I can, however, afford a fully automatic firearm. I choose not to. Just like I choose not to own a sword, an atlatl, a trebuchet, a crossbow, an official Red Ryder carbine action 200 shot range model air rifle, or any number of other things.

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Yeah Mrs. U, over the past couple of says the site has been more screwed up than I have ever seen it. Click on someone's profile and someone else's pops up. Hove over their profile and someone else's photos pop up. Try to message someone and someone else's profile pops up.

Today we got a message that I think was intended for someone else.

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The point behind some liberals wanting to limit what weapons one may own, is not to wave a magic wond and see all fire arms deaths go away, but rather to reduce access to the most deadly of fire arms.

I have given up any illusion to the importance of this argument, as technology has or will soon make the mass manufacturing of costum made assault weapons a reality for anyone with around 30,000 to spend.

10,000 on the printer and plans. 10,000 on supplies like ammunition (self made or bought.), and other things things which can compliment the designed weapon. 10,000 for transportation cost.

Pretty sure the Boston bombers did their thing for under 10,000.

Point is, if you want to kill. You can, anyone can, and in a few years, drones programmed with maps and some basic devices which tell them where north is, it's degrees of variation from north, a device to tell it its own speed of travel, and a clock to determine time of travel, will give the drone the off grid automated ability to navigate like WWII aircraft to a target point.

In 4 years of college, any programmer can turn a ordinary drone, into a weapon of mass destruction. Add to them a minor in chemistry, and you have trouble unlike what we could imagine. Acid dropped over a stadium by a small (meter wide, long, or three meter radius drone) is enough to cause mass panic leading to a mob that kills the elderly and children.

This is of course nothing we haven't seen in movies, games, and books. Yet you people still are arguing over something minor like who's got the bigger boom stick, and should someone be allowed to own one?

You really are thinking in the minor leagues. If you were smart, fear those thinking on grander scales, those who you republicans fear. I don't fear them, because I won't give them that power... But most will, like we gave Alquada and other terrorist the power they now possess.

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Hey Good....FYI, your profile post picture -- is that of some other profile with a very hot brunette in it. If you know them, please introduce them to us.

Now on the topic of this thread, I am excited because where I reside is about to make it legal to conceal/carry a firearm in a "closed" purse, bag, satchel or briefcase....with the required permit to do so. {psst, I don't need an AR or even a very large firearm when a small one does what I require.}

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Oh, and to be clear, the guy you referred to never mentioned using an AR to "mow down" pigs, and he's not from LA; he's 500 miles north of there.

Not all semi automatic rifles are ARs. Just sayin'...

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"If you can guarantee that the operators would act in a safe and responsible manor, I would have no objection."

I can't guarantee any human behavior.

How would you propose to guarantee that the person holding a Remington 760/7600, or any lever action or bolt action, or semi auto or single shot- in other words ANY firearm would act in a safe and responsible manner?

From a safety standpoint, you with your firearm are just as dangerous as anyone with a semi automatic firearm. Your concern seems to be about the guy with a semi automatic firearm shooting you or another person. If you really want to support your position, and that of PA, prove that in a hunting situation, a semiautomatic firearm negligently discharged has resulted in a statistically relevant higher rate of injuries or deaths to someone (other than the person holding the firearm) than any other type of firearm.

To make it easier, you can include self inflicted injuries or deaths. Those figures are public information for the states I hunt in, I don't know about PA, but assume they are. You are probably in a better position to find those statistics. To pass a law regarding semi auto use in PA, I would think that someone there has those statistics

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@ Bill you should know by now that Perfect only picks the part of the post that he thinks he has an answer for. I'm not even gonna debate him on the 2nd because if he was a true believer of the constitution he would know that in it it states elected officials can make laws. So like I said before why don't people that could afford a f-16 fully loaded have one in their front yard since the 2nd is about the right to bear arms? A little common sense goes a long way.

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You said: It's the "machine" not the operator- right? that's exactly right!! If you can guarantee that the operators would act in a safe and responsible manor, I would have no objection. I have said as much since the beginning. I also said the guns should be restricted not out lawed. Safety was the topic I addressed from the beginning, All that chatter about ballistics and action choice just muddied the water. The guy from LA who started this by insisting he needs an AR to mow down pigs is probably reading all this and laughing his ass off. Pittsburg, I am disappointed you have reverted to name calling, Not surprised since I have seen you do this before in other forums. Oh and don't give me that "prove it" shit cause I am not going to waste any more time on this thread as it is

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That would be a sloth (or sleuth) of black bears. Some people may call it a pack of bears but I don't think that's right. The same is true for brown bears. I forget what they call a group of polar bears though, it's not a sloth.

I call a group of coyotes a pack, the same as I refer to a group of any canines. I believe some people call a group of coyotes a band- but not around here.

I admit I get carried away discussing firearms, but certainly not off topic. I was addressing the fact that you have a rifle similar to one I that own. Also you mentioned the suitability of cartridges and firearms for specific game animals- I addressed that as well.

PA may have have deemed a particular firearm's action as dangerous, but other states and many people don't feel the action is what makes a firearm dangerous. I am of the opinion it is the person squeezing the trigger that is dangerous.

Since car safety was mentioned- on that note- perhaps PA should make it illegal to possess/drive any vehicle that is capable of exceeding the posted speed limits. . Perhaps outlaw any vehicle that travels slower than the flow of traffic. Perhaps outlaw vehicles that can be started/operated by any driver who is intoxicated.

Brought to you by the same logic as outlawing semi automatic firearms- safety. It's the "machine" not the operator- right?

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