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Goodenuff. Where H.R. 4269 gets complicated is when it starts referencing barrel shrouds, grips, and ammo feeding devices. I can't speak for "Andrew". But the "barrel shroud" clause (IMO) would seriously restrict most semi-auto hand guns and and many semi-auto rifles. With the exception of the .22 cal. rimfire.

H.R. 4269 also goes into depths of weapon functioning. Gases from a spent round and inertia used to extract a spent shell casing to reload a second unspent round for the next round to be fired would be outlawed. Or that's the way I read it.

H.R. 4269 will never pass. But I'm sure Obama's "executive order" will be mirror image of it. I haven't seen the EO yet.

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~~The American Tombstone Territory Songbook will have a new tune for Second Amendment militia men to whistle in their anarchist compounds: The Legend of Outlaw Robert "LaVoy" Finicum. He fought the Law, and the Law won.~~

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Oops, forgot to say something

"A new bill was introduced in the house about a month ago that would ban all semi-auto firearms, H.R. 4269."

Read the proposed bill again, it does not ban all semi-auto firearms.

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I'm aware of the proposed bill, Tom posted it quite some time ago. I indicated then that I was against it. I forgot that proposed bill had provisions for "buying back" certain firearms that are currently legally owned. A lot of bills are proposed that never make it to a vote, that one certainly has limited, if any media attention. Not sure if it's "dead" or not.

I'm unaware of the remarks you mentioned that Obama and Hilary Clinton made regarding the Australian and British gun regulations. "Speaking positively" is not necessarily the same as suggesting the US does that- I'd have to see exactly what they said.

IMO Obama would not veto the proposed bill if it made it's way to his desk; but alos, IMO, that bill will never make it that far.

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"I don't believe I ever mentioned gun grabs- except possibly to say that I am oppose the concept and to the best of my knowledge no federal level politician has suggested anything of the sort."

Both Obama and Hillary have spoken positively about the British and Australian gun grabs. Both Hillary and Bernie have said they want to remove the liability restrictions on gun manufacturers, which means they'd all be sued into financial oblivion within a year of that policy going into effect.

A new bill was introduced in the house about a month ago that would ban all semi-auto firearms, H.R. 4269.

congress. gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/4269/text

Here's the list of co-sponsors, all democrats.

congress. gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/4269/cosponsors

It's not going to pass. We all know that, but it proves the statement that DEMOCRATS WANT TO TAKE OUR GUNS! And if that bill did somehow pass through congress, do you think Obama would veto it?

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Goodenuff-It sounds like we are very similar in interests, hobbies and views.

One day when we are back in MN or if ever get to TN-We will have to buy you a beer so you can solve the mystery of the old man and gun story for us. In all seriousness we take firearm safety very seriously so you perspective on what is wrong with that picture is of interest to me.

I did the old man and gun riddle to my vanilla friends at the range. No one had heard this story before (someone should claim it) and most like me assumed the house was locked and old man was in his 70's. The most common inquiries I received were similar to mine-Why isn't the gun loaded? Why didn't he take the gun with him?

We don't have guns in plain sight in our house since we have teenagers-but they are close and secure (locked up in individual safes) when we are NOT carrying.

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Back to responding to some of 39TNCOUPLE's comments that appeared to be directed at me-

When I refer to the anti gun climate I mean the call for more gun control regulations that typically occurs after incident involving the use of firearms- especially incidents that the mass media capitalizes on and that politicians use to further their agenda. THAT typically induces a mad rush to purchase firearms and firearm related products, which in turn drives costs of those products up.

I don't believe I ever mentioned gun grabs- except possibly to say that I am oppose the concept and to the best of my knowledge no federal level politician has suggested anything of the sort. To clarify for you, I am absolutely opposed to the concept.

The only fear I have regarding anything you have posted is your disregard for advocating safe firearm handling. With that one exception, I consider all of the points you made, which appear to be directed at me, to be "preaching to the choir".

Happy posting.

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John, I'm going to assume your comment was directed at an individual whose posts I can't read when I log on. Otherwise, it made no sense.

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Did you modify the original posters topic? What you just parrotted is nowhere in the original post.

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What does that have to do with arming the free people of our republic?

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