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" Definitely not a first choice for a self defense weapon- not because of the stopping ability, but because of reliability."

Really! You know better. NOBODY instructs head shots. A 22 to body mass is not lethal enough to put an armed threat out

"BUT- something is better than nothing. "

Absolutely - but that's not justification for pushing a 22 for self-defense

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"I challenge you to a duel. These are the terms. I get my Ruger loaded with one round of .22LR. I get to shoot first and you must stand still for me to do that. After my one little shot, you may shoot me as many times as you like with the caliber of your choice. "

What kind of attacker would do that?? That's probably what happened in your school shooting.

You're ridiculous.

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There is a big difference between a gun and any of the objects you have just stated. The confidence a weapon gives a person (thus why gun nuts cannot go to places without their weapons) makes the gun carrying individual arrogant.

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Hopefully Robert will never start a conversation with someone holding a ball point pen. The discussion may get heated and Robert gets stabbed in the eye, penetrating to the brain and killing him.

Or a fork, or a table knife, or a bottle broken over his head, or....?

Yep, never start a discussion with someone unless their hands and feet are shackled.

Unless of course you have a Ninja Monkey as a bodyguard.

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In my experience, a .22 rimfire is probably the least reliable type of cartridge. I've had more .22 rimfires not go off than any other type of ammunition.

Eject the .22 round, turn it slightly, drop the hammer again, and it usually goes off. Definitely not a first choice for a self defense weapon- not because of the stopping ability, but because of reliability.

BUT- something is better than nothing.

Just sayin'...

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Just to play devil’s advocate here, I remember a Phoenix officer being shot once under the armpit with a .22 and died instantly as the round bounced around in his chest cavity. A .22 round can be a one shot stopper but that would be the exception and not the general rule.

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LOL at Robert's logic.

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"Even without head shots, one or two .22LR bullets in the chest will eliminate that person as an active threat, unless they happen to be a pro-football linebacker on meth, then it might take 3 or 4 shots"

Statements like that spoken with absolute certainty are just plain silly (stupid). A head shot from any caliber is enough to ring anyone’s bell and thus they tend to fall down rather quickly regardless if it’s fatal or not. The trick is landing that oh so difficult in a real life gunfight head shot.

If your attacker is extremely determined to do you harm, he/she can wade though some significant gunfire to reach you before they bleed out. There have been reports of an attacker being shot 5 or six times with a 9mm and still being able to stab someone to death before they expired.

A .22 is a viable defensive caliber but not one that would be my first choice by any stretch and certainly not for a first time handgun buyer unless marksmanship training was the primary intention for the pistol.

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Perfectmatch,

I challenge you to a duel. These are the terms. I get my Ruger loaded with one round of .22LR. I get to shoot first and you must stand still for me to do that. After my one little shot, you may shoot me as many times as you like with the caliber of your choice.

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""Who is going to risk angering someone who is armed with a deadly weapon?" So, you are saying that a weapon is a deterrent to, oh say, a crime?"

Nope, just prevents people from approaching the person with the weapon and having a discussion, because that conversation could turn heated and the person with the gun, decide to win the argument and claim self defense.

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