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Va beach...good idea

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Thanks Vabeach for clearing that up for PP

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This argument is going on simultaneously in two threads. Ending this one.

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I can drive an hour and a half west of Chicago and the people will have more in common with someone in the rural south than someone from Chicago. That doesnt make Illinois a "Southern State"

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Except even in terms of culture, Va is evolving into a northeastern state, and for that matter, so is North Carolina. Northern transplants have that effect My question on Indiana was not a trap or a loaded question, I am curious to know if you consider it "southern"

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And, culturally, I've spent quite a bit of time in Winchester, VA - not far from Berryville. Mileage-wise it's quite close to DC - but culturally, it is not in the same universe. Honest. It's much closer to Columbia, SC than to, say, Philadelphia.

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Oh I see this is your "out". You didn't know we were talking "culturally".

From now on, I'll expect you to refer to Hawaii and New Mexico as "Southern" states. Washington and Montana as "Northern". Cause, you know - everyone does that.

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Vabeachcouple.....are we talking geography, culture or both As I pointed out to vaca4, he lives NORTH of Delaware and about the same latitude as Atlantic city. The SOUTH? Really? On the other hand, the southern border borders NC, so yes, it is the fringes of the south. Culturally and politically, the Northern districts and urban areas are by no means what wound be called 'Southern" in that context. For your fellow statesman to waive the stars and bars when he would have to drive SOUTH to get to Wilmington Delaware is a bit silly....that's all I'm saying

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I didn't mention it because it's not what I was disputing.

You're seriously denying that Virginia is a Southern state? Especially the areas south of Richmond?

Why do I ask a question I don't really want to hear the answer to, right?!?

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"wikipedia's article on the Southern United States has 7 different commonly accepted versions of "The South". Virginia is included in every one of them"

Well if Wikipedia said so, it MUST be a fact! (sarcasm)

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