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"The October 11, 2002 resolution that authorized President Bush to use force in Iraq passed the Senate by a vote of 77 to 23, and the House by 296 to 133."

A joint resolution was necessary for the President to have any credibility at the table. It was not a directive to invade on the basis of questionable intelligence.

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Specifically, he said that he was wrong when he appeared before the UN Security Council on February 5, 2003...

...it turned our that the sourcing was inaccurate and wrong and in some cases, deliberately misleading =================================

He said he was wrong and the sourcing was wrong. Where did he said he lied? You source from David Corn of The Nation as though he wrote a "news" story.

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Powell acknowledged--finally!--that he and the Bush administration misled the nation about the WMD threat posed by Iraq before the war.

I read fine. What's your problem?

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Oh, he said he was misled...like every other person in the intelligence community.

Can't liberals read?

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Published on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 by The Nation Powell Admits False WMD Claim by David Corn It would be a foolish endeavor to call for this Republican Congress to mount a thorough investigation of this Republican administration. But what else is there to do in response to the comments made by Secretary of State Colin Powell this past weekend?

Appearing on Meet the Press, Powell acknowledged--finally!--that he and the Bush administration misled the nation about the WMD threat posed by Iraq before the war. Specifically, he said that he was wrong when he appeared before the UN Security Council on February 5, 2003, and alleged that Iraq had developed mobile laboratories to produce biological weapons. That was one of the more dramatic claims he and the administration used to justify the invasion of Iraq. (Remember the drawings he displayed.) Yet Powell said on MTP, "it turned our that the sourcing was inaccurate and wrong and in some cases, deliberately misleading." Powell did not spell it out, but the main source for this claim was an engineer linked to the Iraqi National Congress, the exile group led by Ahmed Chalabi, who is now part of the Iraqi Governing Council.

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The left's beloved UN:

Resolution 1441 stated that Iraq was in material breach of the ceasefire terms presented under the terms of Resolution 687. Iraq's breaches related not only to weapons of mass destruction (WMD), but also the known construction of prohibited types of missiles, the purchase and import of prohibited armaments, and the continuing refusal of Iraq to compensate Kuwait for the widespread looting conducted by Iraqi troops during the 1990–1991 invasion and occupation. It also stated that "...false statements or omissions in the declarations submitted by Iraq pursuant to this resolution and failure by Iraq at any time to comply with, and cooperate fully in the implementation of, this resolution shall constitute a further material breach of Iraq's obligations."

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Yes, we agreed.

Right after Bush, Powell and other republicans lied about Iraq's WMD's.

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Why do liberals forget the decision to invade Iraq was virtually a universally agreed plan? Agreeable to almost all free countries and even to "American" liberals. There was no dispute at the time that invading Iraq was the right thing to do.

The October 11, 2002 resolution that authorized President Bush to use force in Iraq passed the Senate by a vote of 77 to 23, and the House by 296 to 133. The Iraq War was the defining issue of the 2004 U.S. presidential campaign. All of the Republican candidates and most of the Democratic candidates supported the war, although most of the Democrats also criticized the war's prosecution.

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"American administrations that hope to control the world with fear are pursuing quite a different foreign policy, than those that are trying to raise hope. "

See, you actually used the word "Hope" there, but with two quite different meanings.

1st - "hope to control the world" - what you really mean is "aim" or "seek" to control the world. 2nd - "to raise hope"

This is the kind of hope I just addressed in my posting. The first "hope" is about action. The second is about inaction. The second is what Obama won his Nobel Prize for, which was laughable. We might as well give a Nobel Prize to Jerry Seinfeld for making us laugh and thus stopping us from fighting, or Jenna Jameson for distracting us with whack-off material thus keeping our hands busy.

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I don't mean to sound so harsh, but "Hope" is a crap policy. Hope exists in the imagination and counts on the actions of OTHERS to make things happen.

One can sit there and "Hope" all they like, but Hope accomplishes absolutely nothing. If anything, it works against you, because passive inaction allows your foes to work against you.

Spreading "Hope" is spreading passive inaction. Encouraging those you are aligned with to sit and wait for things to happen to them, "hoping" they don't turn out too badly.

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