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FJ nope the NG and the reserves are not the same. They can become the same if the federal government nationalizes the NG but the guard is under state command and control until that happens. The reserves are always under federal control.

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Here's what George Washington actually said:

"A free people ought not only be armed but disciplined; to which end, a uniform and well digested plan is requisite: And their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories, as tend to render them independent on others, for essential, particularly for military supplies."

Mark, wherever you got that bogus quote: I suggest you stop believing anything else you find there.

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Either the NG is part of the US military or it is not, and the US Army Guard confirms that NG is the army reserve. Under the constitution and law the president cannot call out the militia, congress has that power. And then it is limited to within the boundaries of the US. Get the fuck over it, the people are still the militia, if they are not then there is no militia. And the SCOTUS agrees with the original intent of the 2A and militia. So you can weep and piss and moan all you want. Your Utopia will never be, NEVER, your communist dreams will not be fulfilled. You might as well just stay in the basement playing Call of Duty.

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Mark:

Oppinions are like assholes. We all got them and most all of them are ugly. Further oppions aren't law, ought not be taken as law and do not protect you in court. So now, fight the law I just posted one post earlier with actual law.

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Fjep:

Read and weep, for you are wrong.

ht tp://ww w.arng.army.m il/aboutus/history/Pages/ConstitutionalCharteroftheGuard.aspx

Yep, so you are wrong. Every act in relation to the militia has been an evolution to the national guard we have today. The term national guard replaced the militia, it simply was never updated in the constitution.

Further all of these acts clearly state that the president doesn't even need state authority to call up the national guard (formally known as militia) and in times that a state government is determined void (such as civil war) the president or congress may order all of the state in question guard forced (militia) disbanded until such time as a proper government is established.

So once more your wet dream is busted as you must be a member of a well regulated militia to have a right to a weapon... Not just a citizen.

If you want to keep to the one line from The militia act of 1792 for all abled bodied men to be the militia... Then you must join the national guard... The ONLY recognized regulated state militias.

See what you get when you try to use the letter of the law to win? You lose rights.

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A free people ought not only to armed and disciplined but they should have sufficient arms and ammo to maintain a status and independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government. "George Washington" The first POTUS.

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The National Guard Status Act, 1933 made the National Guard a component of the Army.

The National Guard Status Act of 1933 created a new reserve component of the Army called the National Guard of the United States. Henceforward, every Guard member would have two statuses, though he or she could only serve in one status at any given time. A Guard member could either serve under state authority as part of the National Guard of the several States, Territories and the District of Columbia, or under federal authority in the National Guard of the United States when ordered into active federal service by the President whenever Congress declared a national emergency.

From the Army National Guard site.

The NG cannot serve as a state militia while in active federal service. As such they are useless to defend the rights of the people and the states from a corrupt federal government, as the founders had originally intended as one of the purposes of the militia. The act can call them militia until the president or congress uses them for purposes not outlined in the acts and the law.

And the Dick act does not change that all able bodied citizens are not the militia. It breaks it into two classes of militia. But considering your poor education, and lack of reading skills it is understandable that you missed it.

There is real contradiction because standing army and militia are not the same, and the National Guard Status Act makes it clear that NG is part of the standing army.

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Bobby you are soooo unable to read, the same section is in the Dick act that is in the Militia act of 1792, and is in article 10 of the constitution. All able bodied citizens are members of the militia. So stop with the stupid crap, because it makes you look even more stupid. It has been posted and proved here many times. The Militia acts are clear what the use of the militia is, and what the militia can be used for. The current NG is used as standing army reserves, or they could not be used overseas. The law is clear on this, so you can post your nonsense till you are blue in the face, it does not change what is stated in law and the constitution.

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Fjep:

"The organized militia created by the Militia Act of 1903, which split from the 1792 Uniform Militia forces, and consist of State militia forces, notably the National Guard and the Naval Militia.[2] The National Guard however, is not to be confused with the National Guard of the United States, which is a federally recognized reserve military force, although the two are linked."

"Constitution - Article II - The Executive Branch Section 2 - Clause 1:The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States when called into the actual service of theUnited States."

Both from Wikipedia.

But here is a nice more official site which explains things just as well. ht tp://law.onecle.c om/constitution/article-1/47-militia.ht ml

So enjoy this taste of reality. If you object to this reality, feel free to provide evidence which contradicts my evidence.

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Better read the law Booby, the militia can't be sent overseas.

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