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TOPIC: Disagreements on Fast and Furious negotiations
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Vabeach. Not angry in the least. As I said, it is my wish that we could all be a little less naive and reverse PC and that racists would man up and own their convictions.

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Well, I guess you can logically infer that if I suspect half of white Americans of being racist, that half of white Americans' comments about blacks may have racist motivations behind them.

However, you and I can still be part of the "other half" that can enjoy non-racist opinions. Actually, anyone can, if they are determined and persistent, and exercise some insight.

When I "suspect" someone's motives, I'm just being skeptical that they're being clear and honest. Very rarely is a person actually aware of his own motivations. People are just very complex systems of reflexes, after all.

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That's your argument? White people disagree with a black person, you don't understand why, so therefore they are racist?

I really thought you were coming back to the "lets talk reasonably about things" side. If you Party Ghost 8inch and NK want to play this way, have at it. I'm not interested.

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I'll add that I don't see racism as equivalent to "evil". It's a defect, a shortcoming, a handicap. It's lack of imagination and a logical short-circuit. It's like any irrational belief that one happens to be stuck with.

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Groundless and endless complaints about the Prez, his family, or members of his administration who happen to be *of color* should always be suspected of racist motives, when roughly half of White America is racist.

Sometimes, no alternate motive can be found. I have tried really, really hard in here and elsewhere, to discern an actual reason for complaint, and I have repeatedly come up empty. Nada. Zilch.

Since racists WILL complain, based on race -- that's the definition, in effect -- there's bound to be endless and groundless complaints based on race. Where do we see these complaints? Look no further!

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Yeah, posting an AP story makes you a racist.

AP.... hmmm... that must be code for *something*.

Enjoy your angry life.

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I don't declare racism for any criticism of the president. I only declare racism when it clearly IS racism or when there is no other logical explanation. One of the downsides of the rise of minority rights in America is that many racists lack the stones to own their racism. Instead they hide behind the "who me" and " you played the race card" BS. At least with an overt racist you know someone has the balls to stick to their convictions. This fig whistle and code speak, and "have a nice day" racism is pathetic

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I'm not denying that racism isn't widespread, a part of politics, or present in people on here.

However, I see responding to any criticism of the President (or anyone) with an automatic charge of racism is a sad deflection. It instantly changes the topic and puts the critic in a position of having to defend themselves against a charge of being a racist. It's a tool of a coward. Calling people racist is a sure-fire way to make sure you don't ever have to actually debate anything and can keep your opponents tripping over themselves to prove they aren't evil.

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VB, maybe you aren't replying to me, but I haven't seen anyone suggesting "everyone" is racist.

If you dispute than "many are racist", are you claiming that very few are? That no one in the forum is? That it's really a non-issue in current politics?

That would be a startling assertion. Kind of like claiming there is no hunger, no poverty, no growing income disparity, etc. Assumptions perhaps convenient to some simplified social model, but hardly believable.

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I see the whole "just keep calling everyone racist" thing has stuck. Awesome. Now this is a thread about racism.

Isn't there some kind of "I have no arguments so I'm just going to call you a racist" syndrome?

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