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By SUZANNE GAMBOA, Associated Press Writer Wed Jul 18, 1:16 AM ET WASHINGTON - An estimated 1.6 million children and spouses have been separated from family members forced to leave the country under toughened 1996 immigration laws, a human rights group said Wednesday. The separations have taken a toll on families who have sold homes, lost jobs, lost businesses or been thrown into financial turmoil, Human Rights Watch said in a new report. The widespread impact on American families has been truly devastating, said Alison Parker, a senior researcher with Human Rights Watch. In 1996, Congress toughened immigration laws making immigrants, legal and illegal, deportable according to an expanded list of "aggravated felonies." Congress made the law retroactive even to those who had served their sentences, and also eliminated hearings in which judges could consider an immigrant's family, community roots, military service or possible persecution in his or her native country. Since this law was passed, 672,593 immigrants have been deported for crimes, according to statistics cited in the report from Citizenship and Immigration Services, a division of the Homeland Security Department. Human Rights Watch used those numbers and Census data on foreign-born households to estimate how many family members were left behind in the U.S. According to statistics from Immigration and Customs Enforcement (or ICE), 64.6 percent of immigrants deported in 2005 had been convicted of nonviolent offenses. An additional 20.9 percent were deported for crimes involving violence against people, and 14.7 percent were deported for "other" crimes. ICE has not released similar statistics for previous years. "How do you explain to a child that her father has been sent thousands of miles away and can never come home simply because he forged a check?" Parker said. The statistics don't show the full picture, said Kelly Nantel, Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokeswoman. "A non-violent offense like drugs can contribute to violence of society." Rep. Lamar Smith of Texas, ranking Republican on the House Judiciary Committee, said in a statement immigrants who violate the law forfeit their right to be in the U.S. Steve Camorata, Center for Immigration Studies research director, said family members can leave with the deported immigrants. "Children constantly bear the consequences of their parents' poor decisions," he added. Chiara, who did not want her last name used, said she and her two children tried to live where her husband was deported on a six-year-old misdemeanor domestic violence conviction. He served three days. "We became homeless for quite a while. I was out of work when they deported him because I needed back surgery," said Chiara, who is a waitress. Two immigrants ordered deported, Wayne Smith and Hugo Armendariz, have filed a complaint against the U.S. government with the Inter-American Commission for Human Rights. A hearing is scheduled Friday. The commission enforces human rights treaties that apply in the Americas.

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By SUZANNE GAMBOA, Associated Press Writer 
Wed Jul 18, 1:16 AM ET

WASHINGTON - An estimated 1.6 million children and spouses have been separated from family members forced to leave the country under toughened 1996 immigration laws, a human rights group said Wednesday. 

The separations have taken a toll on families who have sold homes, lost jobs, lost businesses or been thrown into financial turmoil, Human Rights Watch said in a new report.

The widespread impact on American families has been truly devastating, said Alison Parker, a senior researcher with Human Rights Watch.

In 1996, Congress toughened immigration laws making immigrants, legal and illegal, deportable according to an expanded list of "aggravated felonies."

Congress made the law retroactive even to those who had served their sentences, and also eliminated hearings in which judges could consider an immigrant's family, community roots, military service or possible persecution in his or her native country.

Since this law was passed, 672,593 immigrants have been deported for crimes, according to statistics cited in the report from Citizenship and Immigration Services, a division of the Homeland Security Department. Human Rights Watch used those numbers and Census data on foreign-born households to estimate how many family members were left behind in the U.S.

According to statistics from Immigration and Customs Enforcement (or ICE), 64.6 percent of immigrants deported in 2005 had been convicted of nonviolent offenses. An additional 20.9 percent were deported for crimes involving violence against people, and 14.7 percent were deported for "other" crimes.  ICE has not released similar statistics for previous years.

"How do you explain to a child that her father has been sent thousands of miles away and can never come home simply because he forged a check?" Parker said.

The statistics don't show the full picture, said Kelly Nantel, Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokeswoman. "A non-violent offense like drugs can contribute to violence of society."

Rep. Lamar Smith of Texas, ranking Republican on the House Judiciary Committee, said in a statement immigrants who violate the law forfeit their right to be in the U.S.

Steve Camorata, Center for Immigration Studies research director, said family members can leave with the deported immigrants. "Children constantly bear the consequences of their parents' poor decisions," he added.

Chiara, who did not want her last name used, said she and her two children tried to live where her husband was deported on a six-year-old misdemeanor domestic violence conviction. He served three days.

"We became homeless for quite a while. I was out of work when they deported him because I needed back surgery," said Chiara, who is a waitress.

Two immigrants ordered deported, Wayne Smith and Hugo Armendariz, have filed a complaint against the U.S. government with the Inter-American Commission for Human Rights. A hearing is scheduled Friday.

The commission enforces human rights treaties that apply in the Americas.

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User Details are only visible to members.	HI Fran nice to meet ya. Love your Tat. Good topic. I say it's tough on the kids because the parents create the situation. I mean if you are going to "Migrate" here illegally then KEEP YOUR FUCKING HEAD DOWN AND NOSE CLEAN! Don't cry about being deported!
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User Details are only visible to members.	Hi Joe, I'm Fran.................................
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User Details are only visible to members.	Actually Blacks in America have very little in common culturally with Africans. In fact there is a rift between the cultures. The term African American refers to an Ancestral connection. Just a term used to identify or differentiate our culture. The Term "Black" or "Negro" may offend some who see those terms as negative. I don't give a shit either way to be honest. I introduce myself as Joe.
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User Details are only visible to members.	Perfect, Then they should all be mutes, because they've never been right one anything and are easily intimidated.
Lake Worth FL			Username hidden (7209 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	well, were does... "if you came here illegaly, boo fucken' whooo" fit in? I'm sorry but if you're an immigrant and you break the law unless you've been naturalized, cya and take your kids with you. i agree the anchor baby thing has got to go. If one of the parents isn't an american then you're rotten offspring isn't either. The wayne smith name could possibly been from that african country that all the slaves went to..... I can't think of the name off hand. but they have american sounding name.... the guy running it now's name is taylor.
Lake Worth FL			Username hidden (7209 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	From what I understand the families are more than welcome to go with them. If they ask how they would receive the help to do it legal. I could be wrong but that is my understanding.
Bridgeport PA			Username hidden (12781 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	In California, a "Wayne Smith" is a foreign name. (He's probably from central America: Oklahoma or Kansas).
Fairfield CA			Username hidden (575 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	I have sympathy for the children. What a hard life to be dealt. I completely understand the daily struggle to give your kids a better life. I find it overwhelmingly difficult though to think that potential immigrants don't have the where with all to do it all the legal way for lasting change and a hand up for their children.
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User Details are only visible to members.	Duh....I should of had a V8....lol
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User Details are only visible to members.	OK, Perfect....I have to ask....who is Wayne Smith?
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