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User Details are only visible to members.	"They tried to assassinate my daddy" Paraphrasing Dubya's words...
Tempe AZ			Username hidden (2030 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Cheney reminded Bush that "accidents do seem to just happen when cleaning his gun or hunting". Cheney reminded Bush that his gun doesn't have time to rust.... He kept trying to get Bush to "go fishing" on a private lake.... Bush woke up with a horse's head on his pillow... REDRUM in blood on his bathroom mirror. The poisonous pretzel.... The late night calls/hang ups.... Air Force One was keyed up... Bush finally caved... Signed in pencil, and later with a Crayola.
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User Details are only visible to members.	"Invading Iraq was an elective war." --My first statement about this a couple of days ago. "Bush was the one who elected to invade. Period." --My statement yesterday. Both statements are simple, straightforward, and correct.
San Quentin CA			Username hidden (8604 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	lol. All President's have made that claim. Clinton ignored it and so did Obama. GWB got the resolution and Democrats allowed it to pass. Stop with your fairytale. made up 'what ifs'
Pittsburgh PA			Username hidden (14584 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	For all your supposed knowledge of history, you know so very little. Bush always made it clear that he was going to do what he wanted pursuant to his power as commander in chief, regardless of any resolution. He overtly stated that he sought the resolution to strengthen his hand in negotiations with Iraq. Bush decided to use force. Bush decided when to use force. Bush decided that such force would be via a boots-on-the-ground invasion. Even when he reported to Congress on the invasion, he made it clear that his action was "pursuant to" his power as CIC. As distinguished from his report which was merely "consistent with" the resolution and the reporting requirement of the WPA. I'm not surprised that this distinction eludes you. Bush made the decision to invade Iraq. And he (probably more than anyone) would be offended at your suggestion that he wasn't really "the decider."
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User Details are only visible to members.	Always blame someone else but a Repub. Or Congress was there with Bush... Point the finger at them. If it is Congress, why do you bash Obama and all Democs? Why do you even cheerleader for Romney if the president is so powerless? Why you always give credit to Repubs but always blame Democs and Congress?
Tempe AZ			Username hidden (2030 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	The resolution was passed by two-thirds of Congress, overriding a presidential veto!!!!!!!!!!!!. "The War Powers Resolution of 1973 (50 U.S.C. 1541-1548)[1] is a federal law intended to check the President's power to commit the United States to an armed conflict without the consent of Congress. The resolution was adopted in the form of a United States Congress joint resolution; this provides that the President can send U.S. armed forces into action abroad only by authorization of Congress or in case of "a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces." The War Powers Resolution requires the President to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30 day withdrawal period, without an authorization of the use of military force or a declaration of war. The resolution was passed by two-thirds of Congress, overriding a presidential veto.
Pittsburgh PA			Username hidden (14584 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	If the Democrats didn't want a war, they had the numbers to defeat the resolution. NO-SPIN
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User Details are only visible to members.	"The resolution authorized President Bush to use the Armed Forces of the United States "as he determines to be necessary and appropriate" in order to "defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council Resolutions regarding Iraq." Congress, including a bunch of Democrats, authorized GWB to go to war. PERIOD.
Pittsburgh PA			Username hidden (14584 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	"The Resolution was sponsored Sen. Daschle & Sen. Lott in the Senate and by Rep. Hastert & Rep. Gephardt in the House." Maybe you ought to read the resolution. It didn't instruct the President to invade. It authorized him to make the election about using force, conditioned on him certifying that our national security was still threatened aftef exhaustion of all diplomatic means. Bush was the person who elected to use force, when and how it was used (Bush elected invasion), and how the invasion was prosecuted.
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