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VA, the only way to stop the gangs is by eradicating the gangs... one of the main reasons gangs flourish is a poor family core, most young men ( and women) join gangs in search of structure that is lacking in the home.

Of all the training I had regarding gangs and those driven to them, more than not the gang memebers came from broken homes, or homes where the family unit is not a strong source of support and structure. If those living in areas prone to gang activities, were to start in the homes the gangs would dwindle and die off through attrition. Sadly until that happens the gangs will survive, and flourish, those who become members are more than willing to die or kill for thier adoptive "family".

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Stop the gangs and a lot of killings would stop and not just firearm related. People would be able to walk down the street with out fear of being robbed or killed. Gangs do a lot more damage than just murders.Look at the FBI & DOJ stats. Once gangs are pushed out of the neighborhood violent crime make a drastic drop.

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Right, and there would be no 3 year old sitting on her front porch killed by a stray knife...please spare me the false equivalents

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Pp you are one twisted person. If gangs have no guns they will use other weapons to kill people or attack in a larger group to insure they take what they want. You have to fix the cause of the problem not the symptom. Why is that so hard to understand?

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Some former gang members who might surprise you

tokely Carmichael aka Kwame Ture; Dukes (?) in the Tremont area of South Bronx; Black Panther Leader, AAPRP Leader, etc.

In his youth, Sonny Carson, as a leader of a gang called the Bishops, Carson developed the streetwise qualities and charisma that made him, even in recent years, popular with many young people in neighborhoods like Brownsville and Bedford-Stuyvesant, his associates said. (Newsday, Oct. 18, 2002).

Nicky Cruz; a president, vice president, and war councilor of a notorious and vicious Fort Greene, Brooklyn gang, the Mau Maus, an experienced thief and mugger, and a hardened and violent street criminal—all before he reached 18. From 1955 to 1958, the Mau Maus were one of the most feared of all New York City gangs -- making headlines regularly. (By the way, a member of the Mau Maus helped the Capeman murder a young man in Hell's Kitchen in Aug. 1959).

The original Dion and the Belmonts were: Dion DiMucci (lead vocals), Carlo Mastrangelo (baritone/bass vocals), Fred Milano (tenor vocals) and Angelo D'Aleo (tenor vocals). Carlo and Freddie were members of the Imperial Hoods while Dion was a Fordham Baldie.

Jose Fernandez; Superintendent of New York City Board of Education.

Larry King; The judge told him to get a life. So he did!

Burt Lancaster; East Harlem; Gymnast, Circus Performer, Actor, Producer. He was part of the Kay Brother Circus. He made over 60 movies. He, also, was an avid art collector. (Source: AMC informational clip, Jan. 6, 2002).

Felipe Luciano; Young Lords (Party) in East Harlem; Motivational speaker.

Norman Podhoretz (b. 1930, Jan.); writer; In 1948, he was 18, and a member of the Cherokees. (see Schneider, Eric; "Vampires, Dragons, and Egyptian Kings").

Colin Powell; Kelly Street, near Southern Boulevard and 163rd Street, in the South Bronx; he went on to become Chief of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and presently is Secretary of State.

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There has been by the way, "gangs" in America since the founding of the republic. First the Dutch, then the English, then the Irish followed by Italians, Greeks, Jews, Puerto Ricans, Blacks, Central Americans, Cape Of Verdians, Salvadorians, Bosnians, Albanians and who knows who next? It may well be an American right of passage for ethnic groups Guns in the hands of gangs, not gangs themselves, are the problem

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So...If as so often happens, a child or innocent is killed by a stray bullet in a gang related incident, we should just disregard that as "gang related"?

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Makes a big difference. If there is a high number of gang related shooting then you work on getting rid of the gangs. The way you treat a problem is by first finding out the cause of a problem. You don't treat the symptoms.You fix the cause. I am sure when you go to the doctor lets say for pain in your back. Do you want him to just give you pain mads that does not fix the problem just covers it up. Or do you want him to find the cause of the pain and fix that. So you see it does make a difference.

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How many were gang related??

What difference does it make?

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Of course. I told you you're dismissed.....

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