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TOPIC: Dealing with the Taliban
Created by: vabeachcouple33
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I saw these two stories butted right up next to each other.... are we really going to "talk" with these people?

#1: Taliban fighters beheaded two boys aged 10 and 16 as a warning to villagers not to cooperate with the Afghan government, local officials said. The boys had travelled to Afghan army and police checkpoints near their home in the southern province of Kandahar, scrounging for leftover food to bring to their families.

#2:U.S. and Taliban negotiators will hold formal talks "in a couple of days" in the Gulf state of Qatar, where the Taliban will officially open an office on Tuesday, U.S. officials said on a conference call with reporters. The negotiations are part of a diplomatic push to ease the American withdrawal by the end of 2014 and ensure the war-torn country does not serve as a springboard for attacks like the Sept. 11 2001 terrorist strikes.

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No I am referring to the song. Roger was the lead singer for Super Tramp.

The title is actually "Had a Dream" (Sleeping with the enemy)

"Had a dream it was war, and they couldn't tell me what it was for But it was something they could lie about, something we could die about, you know Anytime, anyplace when you look death right in the face Well it is not a face you wanna see, sleeping with the enemy, you know"

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sexy:

The problem with the statement of brutality applied to the bad guys is that in this war... The bad guys is the culture and the humans are simply the foot soldiers drafted to fight the war.

You can kill every radical religious leader in their nations, and two or three days later three more will rise from the dead.

a combination of population control (Fire bomb entire villages which have terrorist or groups who mean to do us harm) and re-education for well over 150 years is the only means which might work.

Now some would say that this is what England and the west has always done and that would be a lie. We occupied these nations and then turned their people into slaves, which justifies their hate for us... Not their actions.

If we really wanted to change these people without genocide... We must first accept that it will be a very long process of brutal occupation which will lead to independence for them, only after they have been built up to a first world level status.

Why first world level status? Because then they would have something worth living for and not some imaginary being worth dying for in this life.

This is why the less educated, the people made to work the hardest in their lives are so mean spirited and believe in religions which command action... This is also why your more pure forms of capitalism is found in the harshest of places like the middle east. (pure capitalism being a system with the least restrictions on what can be bought and sold and at what prices.)

This would have to end. They would have to be socialized to the degree we have been, or we will never be able to co-exist.

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I agree with you, Robert, but it's our American culture, currently being destroyed by your buddy, Obama, that can't understand that negotiations are impossible, and simply won't drop disaster on the Jihads. But you are right in that Bush didn't have the balls to really pull the plug on them, and at the cost of many of our guys. Maybe he made a small dent in westernizing them, but only time will tell that. Actually Obama is retreating from even that Luke warm kick in their balls. But we agree there is no half way, negotiated settlement. It's an all or nothing game that must be very decisively won, and that means brutality applied to the bad guys relentlessly.

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Are you referring to a Book, Lucky?

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Sadly we won't do what is needed, because our streets aren't running red with the blood of our women and our laws will not be changed so radically as to change the constitution to enable radical islam to ever take hold within the US, so we will never see these problems here in the US.

So we will continue to deploy our soldiers to lands so alien to what we know, demand that our soldiers fight cleaner than God's angles would fight a war and we will continue to have flag drapped coffins sent home or men/women with missing body parts and entire segments of their minds shattered for ever.

Why? Because not enough of us have enough skin in the game.

This is why if I were president, I would simply leave the middle east, reduce our army and marines by 50 to 75%, so to require a draft should we want to invade someone.

Beef up the nuclear strike arm so to keep Russia and China from invading the US and its possessions and finally fix the DoD's research and development so that china can't hack it.

There is no excuse for why China has our F-22, other than we had given it to them by means of our development companies using the same internet that China has access to.

There ought be a separate internet or communication system for such programs and transfer of information.

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Roger Hodgson....Sleeping with the enemy

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I can't believe it! I am actually going to agree with Robert! After working for 5 years in Pakistan, I have developed, thru real-time experience, an understanding of what we face. These Jihadists believe, via their interpretation of the Holy Koran, that God insists that Islam, and the Koran provides instructions. It should be the ONLY means of worshipping him. Article after Article, much of it as directives in Sharia Law, require no negotiation on these points- ever. They may go thru the motions of negotiations, but when with an infidel, negotiated agreements are a joke, will never to be followed, and only lead to more negotiations. Americans, never facing such obstinacy never seem to get it. How long have we been trying to Negotiate peace between Israel and Palestine?

In every four city blocks sits a Mosque, and in the Mosque sit between 2 and 6 Clerics, or Mullah's. They tell the folks 6 times a day what is expected of them... IN GODS NAME. They hear that message daily, years after year. They are collectively directed BY THE MULLAS.... daily, over and over again. The mosques, and the Mullahs are the political operatives, the Church and the media all rolled up in one. It has instant impact, and it is believed... by the believers.

If we are to ever defeat radical Islam, ever, we will have to do the unthinkable:

Destroy the most radical Mosques and the Mullah's inside in the most volatile areas of the most radical countries. Remorselessly, and after announcing what is coming. Next, we should destroy all ports, road and rail bridges in such areas. Next, destroy all power grids. And never again negotiate. After that, we tell them what will next happen unless they stop the primitive actions that wring our guts, for that is intended to intimidate us. We are eons ahead of them technologically, and it's time to help them understand that we've had enough. And we do all this from 30,000 feet in the air. Yes! We destroy them, and they never even get to see us.

How much more crap do we take until we finally pull the chain?

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Um... no?

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Not today!

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