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"You certainly see mentioned here conservative shows/personalities such as rush, o'reilly, hannity, coulter and i imagine the treatment swinging would get on such programs." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- I don't know how Rush feels, but O'Reilly, Hannity and Coulter have addressed the issue of swingers, either on their shows, their books, and in some of their public speaking engagements.

O'Reilly and Coulter don't seem to care, one way or the other. O'Reilly does not understand why adults would "swing", but he has been adamant on his position that what two consenting adults do, in private, is their own business. Coulter has acknowledged that she has friends that turned out to be swingers. She also attends parties, the ones called "rich and shameless (lol)", where she has acknowledged that some of the party goers indulge in pleasures of the flesh. Her discussions on this issue are filled with humor, which demonstrates to me, that she does not view the issue as one with a political or large social impact. She agrees it is a private matter.

Hannity is the only one that seems to openly reflect condemnation of swingers. On the one hand, he states it is their own business, but on the other hand, he thinks it degrades the intimacy of what he views sex is for, primarily love between a man and woman, and for procreation of the family. He also gives his opinion concerning his personal beliefs that it is against his faith. But, he has also stated he does not believe the government should interfere with what two consenting adults do. I have no problem with any of his opinion, I just don't share it.

However, on the left, both Maureen Dowd and Arianna Huffington have written on the "seediness" and "degrading of women" that goes hand in hand with swinging. Again, I don't care what they think, as they are welcome to their opinion. My concern has been Huffington's not so subtle comments about needing more protections (government intrusion?) for women, when she discusses the issues of consenting adult conduct. She seems to think large or significant number of women are pressured or forced into swinging by their "abusive" husbands.

As I said before, I don’t think swinging is approved openly by one side and denounced by another. I can find pro’s and con’s on both sides of the political fence, in equal amounts. Swinging within your personal politics is how you view those politics.

As I stated earlier, for me, being a conservative is about freedom. Free enterprise, free speech, freedom to vote for who I chose, freedom of association, freedom from unreasonable search and seizure, freedom to either openly or privately discuss and practice my religion (in my case, none) and freedom from an over intrusive, unnecessary expanding, and over taxing government. My list of freedoms is non-ending.

From my perspective, the freedom to swing with other consenting adults fits in easily with my being a conservative. Some would argue that I am more Libertarian then conservative. It is all on how we individually view same.

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4play, There is no mold of a lib or conservative in my opinion. We all have conservative and liberal traits just some lean in either direction. Capitalism is a Conservative trait and requires saving money while socialism is a liberal trait that spreads money evenly to others. Do you save money or give it to others?

The most outstanding thing I have ever read...did anyone else carch that this statement was awesome come back anytime 4play...

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i certainly understand all your answers as to why u do what u do and i think it's awesome. i guess i am still having a little trouble "wrapping my head" around the two in light of the fact that it seems the majority of posters in the political forum are way more right-leaning than i ever expected.

You certainly see mentioned here conservative shows/personalities such as rush, o'reilly, hannity, coulter and i imagine the treatment swinging would get on such programs.

guess it just shows each of us have "two brains" ;)

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Dzzy, There is no mold of a lib or conservative in my opinion. We all have conservative and liberal traits just some lean in either direction. Capitalism is a Conservative trait and requires saving money while socialism is a liberal trait that spreads money evenly to others. Do you save money or give it to others?

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Dizzyred,

IMHO, being a swinger has nothing to do with which political side of the isle you lean on, or whether your politics are in the middle. It is about those that believe consenting adults have the right to make their own choice about their private sex lives.

I know extreme conservatives who want to control everything we do and I know just as many extreme liberals who want to control everything we do. Each issue must be weighed on it's merits and each individual has a value system which is flexible and adjusts based on EACH separate issue.

I am aware of cities, towns and states that under their Liberal and/or Democrat elected officials passed ordinances and laws that negatively impacted on swingers. I am also aware of areas under Conservative and/or Republican elected officials that did the same. Swinging is not promoted or accepted by either political party.

Political PARTIES are about control and power. Individual political and/or personal beliefs are how individuals view whether they are conservative or liberal. For me being a conservative is about less government, which also translates into less intrusive government, which then translates into what I do with other consenting ADULTS is my own business.

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Dzzy I also answered you ......

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so besides all the typical rhetoric (name calling) that generally happens in every thread in the political forums, did anyone really explain how swinging fits with the republican or conversative platform other than by saying "what we do in our homes is nobodies business"? just curious

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I concider myself more of a conservative rebulician but I don't agree with all of it! I agree with more of the economics, public funding, and the way most things are done. I find Dems are always trying to pass stupid laws that don't help anyone if anything they hurt people more. It seems to me they like the people to be dependant on the goverment instead of making the goverment depenant on the people. They try the cover of they are for the poor but I find them to hurt the poor much more. They are much more likely to give outs.

My "morals" aren't always the same however. I do beleive in the women's right to choose. Gay marriage doesn't bother me I do feel that there are two different types of marriages religous ones and leagal ones. I don't think the goverment should tell a church that they have to allow gay marriage. If that is what they were trying to do then I would have a problem with it. But to make it leagal for gays to marry by law is silly. What's the difference between calling it a marriage or a civilal union? I'm not sure how I feel about gun control or the death penalty. So my morals is where I am mixed. I don't care that safe sex is tough in schools. I wish that the history and back ground of all religons known to man where taught in schools. I think to know and be educated is much better then to be ignorant to different cultures and beleifes. And I don't want to see ANY drugs legalized!

I find that everyone is so extream. You either have to be left or right. Lables suck! I hate lables. I try and keep an open mind and at least try and understand others that don't see the world as I do. I guess basically I am split right down the middle on alot of things in politics.

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"and then maybe you might want to ask yourself why politicians are sworn into office on The BIBLE, why the House and Senate open every day with a PRAYER..."

If indeed this does occur it is tradition, not a requirement. From Article II of the constitution, swearing in the President.

"Before he enter on the execution of his office, he shall take the following oath or affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." "

Notice there is NO requirement for a Bible NOR to end by "So help me God". He is not even required to say the word "swear".....he can subsitute the word "affirm".

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I agree with Rabbit as far as the intent of the Pilgrims. Plymouth colony was established in the year 1620, 150+ years before America declared independence from the King's rule. IMHO the Pilgrims did not or could not invision a "new" "separate" country from England.

I am not saying that christian ideals did not play a part in the founding of this country...just that it was more than likely not the Pilgrims intent.

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