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User Details are only visible to members.	setup job? who set whom up?
Philadelphia PA			Username hidden (5330 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Oh he will and the only people that are going to be pissed are going to be pissants like you who would be pissed at anything he does.So JNM keep your fucking huffing and puffing to your self and go take your medication.
Fayetteville GA			Username hidden (2075 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	so the republican prosecutor got it all wrong?
Philadelphia PA			Username hidden (5330 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	The trial seemed to be a mess inside of a mess. I don't see how it really has a significant impact on a already damaged Administration, The Dems will do exactly what the republicans would do and stretch this to every possible Hypothetical conclusion they can think of in order to raise money. If you switched the parties around involved in this case you would have the same reactions from both sides and defenders and accusers saying the same things. I see the entire affair as being pointless.
Arlington TX			Username hidden (2285 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	if she was not a covert agent what was she?
Philadelphia PA			Username hidden (5330 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	According to the AP article: 1. Libby will immediately appeal 2. The prosecutor states their will be no more investigations or others charged. 3. The article states that the evidence only reflected that the jury felt Libby lied. The trial reflects that Bob Novak DID NOT get his information from Libby (which was what this trial was supposed to be originally about). 4. That Harry Reid is still a piece of crap, get his name in the paper, weasel. I thought the AP article was much better written and neutral versus the CNN article. If the verdict stands, I agree with .38, that Libby should be held to the max. However, the evidence and trial itself did not answer, and based on the comments by the Special Prosecutor, will never answer the questions concerning what started this investigation.
Minden NV			Username hidden (4041 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	(.....AP story continued) White House deputy press secretary Dana Perino said Bush watched news of the verdict on TV in the Oval Office. Perino said the president respected the jury's verdict but "was saddened for Scooter Libby and his family." Perino said "I would not agree" with any characterization of the verdict as embarrassing for the White House. "I think that any administration that has to go through a prolonged news story that is unpleasant and one that is difficult — when you're under the constraints and the policy of not commenting on an ongoing criminal matter — that can be very frustrating," she said. Libby was convicted of one count of obstruction, two counts of perjury and one count of lying to the FBI about how he learned Plame's identity and whom he told. Prosecutors said he learned about Plame from Cheney and others, discussed her name with reporters and, fearing prosecution, made up a story to make those discussions seem innocuous. Libby said he told investigators his honest recollections and blamed any misstatements on a faulty memory. He was acquitted of one count of lying to the FBI about his conversation with Time magazine reporter Matthew Cooper. One juror who spoke to reporters outside court said the jury had 34 poster-size pages filled with information they distilled from the trial testimony. They discerned that Libby was told about Plame at least nine times and they didn't buy the argument that he forgot all about it. "Even if he forgot that someone told him about Mrs. Wilson, who had told him, it seemed very unlikely he would not have remembered about Mrs. Wilson," the juror, Denis Collins, said. Collins, a former Washington Post reporter, said jurors wanted to hear from others involved in the case, including Bush political adviser Karl Rove, who was one of two sources for the original leak. Defense attorneys originally said both Libby and Cheney would be witnesses and Rove was on the potential witness list. "I will say there was a tremendous amount of sympathy for Mr. Libby on the jury. It was said a number of times, 'What are we doing with this guy here? Where's Rove? Where are these other guys?' " Collins said. "I'm not saying we didn't think Mr. Libby was guilty of the things we found him guilty of. It seemed like he was, as Mr. Wells put it, he was the fall guy." Though the case never proved a White House conspiracy to out Plame as retribution for Wilson's criticism, Fitzgerald showed how adamant some members of the Bush administration were to discredit Wilson. Fitzgerald provided a parade of senior administration officials and top journalists as government witnesses. Reaction to the conviction on Capitol Hill was swift. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid welcomed the jury's verdict and called on Bush to pledge not to pardon Libby. Before the trial began, the Justice Department had said that it had no pardon file active for Libby. "It's about time someone in the Bush Administration has been held accountable for the campaign to manipulate intelligence and discredit war critics," Reid said. Perino would not discuss Reid's pardon concerns. Wilson and Plame have sued Libby, Cheney and several other administration officials in federal court. Attorneys at the liberal watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics, which brought the lawsuit, praised the conviction and Fitzgerald's team. "Their prosecution of a senior White House official illustrates that we are a nation of laws and that no man is above the law," attorneys said in a prepared statement. U.S. District Judge Reggie B. Walton ordered a pre-sentencing report be completed by May 15. Judges use such reports to help determine sentences. Libby will be allowed to remain free while awaiting sentencing.
Minden NV			Username hidden (4041 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Libby Found Guilty in CIA Leak Trial Tuesday, March 6, 2007 2:10 PM EST The Associated Press By MICHAEL J. SNIFFEN and MATT APUZZO WASHINGTON (AP) — Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, was convicted Tuesday of lying and obstructing a leak investigation that reached into the highest levels of the Bush administration. Libby is the highest-ranking White House official to be convicted of a felony since the Iran-Contra scandal of the mid-1980s. The case brought new attention to the Bush administration's much-criticized handling of weapons of mass destruction intelligence in the run-up to the Iraq war. The verdict culminated a nearly four-year investigation into how CIA official Valerie Plame's name was leaked to reporters in 2003. The trial revealed how top members of the administration were eager to discredit Plame's husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, who accused the administration of doctoring prewar intelligence on Iraq. Libby, who was once Cheney's most trusted adviser and an assistant to President Bush, was expressionless as the jury verdict was announced on the 10th day of deliberations. His wife, Harriet Grant, choked out a sob and sank her head. He faces up to 30 years in prison when he is sentenced June 5 but under federal sentencing guidelines is likely to face far less. Defense attorneys immediately promised to ask for a new trial or appeal the conviction. "We have every confidence Mr. Libby ultimately will be vindicated," defense attorney Theodore Wells told a throng of reporters. "We believe Mr. Libby is totally innocent and that he didn't do anything wrong." Libby did not speak to reporters. Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald, who has led the leak investigation, said no additional charges would be filed. That means nobody will be charged with the leak and Libby, who was not the source for the original column outing Plame, will be the only one to face trial. "The results are actually sad," Fitzgerald said. "It's sad that we had a situation where a high-level official person who worked in the office of the vice president obstructed justice and lied under oath. We wish that it had not happened, but it did." (Continued.....)
Minden NV			Username hidden (4041 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Ruined her career? she was ready to quit... And she looks like she is doin pretty good for some one who had her so called career ruined...
Saint Louis MO			Username hidden (12119 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Come on JNM, I would think you understand that someone in a leadership position cannot and/or should not comment on an ONGOING trial. Even the reporters in the room understood that and got the levity in the President's responses. I don't blame them for trying, but until this trial is completed, they got the correct answer.
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