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VACPL but the NYC citizens did hang blacks in New York just for being black.

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Mari, I don't need to explain myself to 8 inch he is one of the biggest racist in the forums. If you care to go back through my post and see were I am coming from please feel free to do so. But as far as the Nazi flag to the Confederate flag they are no way close.I don't think we were tracking down the Africans to put in a gas chamber. The South did not put them in Ghettos and starve them to death.I am sure many were mistreated.Plus slavery was just not in the south slaves were also held in the north and if you do your research they used them in factories for free labor.Like I stated before I am not saying slavery was right far from it.Maybe it is because of were I have grown up not many Blacks pay much attention to the flag. Like I said it is part of this counties history and no one will ever change that.

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Vacpl, 8inch analogized your stars and bars to the swastika. If you see a flaw in his analogy, then say so. Simply repeating the same arguments others offer over and over again make you sound like nothing more than a parrot.

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Norcal, I completely understand your position. And to some extent, I agree with you.

In the same vein, I don't immediately assume that a kid under a white sheet on Halloween is pretending to be a Klan member. The first thing I see is a ghost. Granted, he may be a Klan member, but I'm not going to just assume by association. That just makes me a bigoted asshole. Racism is a rampant issue, especially in the south, but I've seen it from coast to coast. You don't have to display a rebel flag to be a racist though. I've met racists driving window-stickerless Mercedes too.

I have my own personal reasons for not seeing anything racist or evil about a symbol. You have yours for seeing the evil in it. I don't intend to push my viewpoint onto you as gospel, and I would hope you'd afford me the same luxury. That's the groovy thing about being an American isn't it? You don't have to like what you see, and you will always have the freedom to look away. You aren't forced to understand it and no one gets to make you believe in it.

And 8inch, I'm sure every Jewish kid with a history book has taken a swastika into a Temple. Surprisingly enough, it's never once been an issue. Anyone who would "choose" to send a crate full of them into a Temple isn't right in the head anyway and has far greater problems to deal with than simply being anti-Semitic or a racist douche.

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We fly our Confederate Flag with pride. It is flown as the sign of our HERITAGE not HATE. No different than anyone else who flies a flag other than the US flag. If someone can fly a Mexico, Iran. or Mozambique flag because of their heritage. How dare any of you all call us racist for flying a flag of our heritage. Get over it.

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I have to disagree with Pandora on this one. 8 inch makes the superior argument.

Moncton Nothing
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Pandora. The stars and bars offends me. Most pale skinned folks I see flying this flag tend to believe that somehow I agree with their racial crap. They make this assumption and don't tend to watch what they say and I clearly hear their words. It isn't long before they figure out how bad that assumption was. It offends me and I highly suspect anyone who publicly displays this symbol as being a racist. I've lived all over this country including the south. I don't buy into the heritage line of thought.

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Oh, really? Dont be so naive. Send a bunch of Swastika flags to your local synagogue, and see how receptive they are. Why do you hide behind that bullshit statement?

Better yet, if its just a flag, go to your next rally and burn a US flag, or burn one near your city's capitol bldg....

Though the symbol (swaztika) had several meanings, as well as logo on many jerseys of sports teams and orginizations prior to the Nazis adopting it, its in very bad taste to sport that flag on the back of your truck.

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Flying a rebel flag no more makes you a slavery proponent than flying an Italian flag makes you a Fascist dictator sympathizer.

It's a heritage thing. Good or bad, you are PROUD of where you came from. It's a simple as that.

A flag is a symbol. Only YOU can give it power.

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Few northerners in 2013 have grounds to be self-righteous on behalf of northerners who fought in the civil war well over a century ago.

That, however, utterly fails to explain the grounds on which a southerner today would have to justify the actions of southerners who fought in that same war so long ago.

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