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Damn what a way to wake up in the morning to a bunch a history experts. Before you proclaim the South was all about slavery do some research on were slaves were located in the country. It was not just in the South. Look at their living conditions in the North. It may be a little hard to find because the North tried to hide how they worked their slave. So all you history experts get out your books read and learn. Don't go by what others have told you or get your info from Wiki with out taking the time to verify what you read on there. As we say American by Birth,Southern by the Grace of God!!

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".I don't think we were tracking down the Africans to put in a gas chamber."

No, just working them to death in the fields, breeding them for durability, having sex with some of them, selling them often enough to prevent families from forming, and other atrocities.

The rebel flag symbolizes just 5 years of aberrant and abhorrent behavior by those who led the South, preferring the destruction of the United States over modernization.

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Vacp:

"We fly our Confederate Flag with pride. It is flown as the sign of our HERITAGE not HATE. No different than anyone else who flies a flag other than the US flag. If someone can fly a Mexico, Iran. or Mozambique flag because of their heritage. How dare any of you all call us racist for flying a flag of our heritage. Get over it."

All of those other flags never tried to destroy the US. Even the Japanese and Germans never had any plans for wiping out the US...

The Japanese wanted breathing room and felt that sinking our Pacific fleet which we used to harass them with, would bring us to the peace table and we would leave them be.

The Germans initially wanted to be our friends and we rightfully told them to get lost. Even so, they only declared war against the US so to help Japan. The Germans aggression against our shipping to England was their ships ending the transport of weapons and supplies which helped England weather the bombings they suffered.... And to fight the German.

If your enemy was being kept alive by another shipping them goods, wouldn't you stop those goods so to hasten the death of your enemy?

The Confederate flag represents everything that was and still is wrong with this nation. Extremist ideals, ignorance, treason, and worst of all... Slavery.

You will never divorce the confederates flag from slavery and there for every time you fly it, you fly ignorance and slavery.

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Pandora:

"It's a heritage thing. Good or bad, you are PROUD of where you came from. It's a simple as that.

A flag is a symbol. Only YOU can give it power."

A heritage of protecting slavery? A proud heritage of protecting slavery?

The power we sane and anti confederate people give that confederate flag is simple... Nothing more than it being a blight.

You try and make it into a symbol of rebellion... But that rebellion tried to protect the institution of slavery at the point of a gun. You will never divorce the confederacy and its flag from what it represented and protected.... The right of one man to own another.

Fly it if you want, but accept that in a civilized land, you will face condemnation and ridicule for flying not only a traitors flag, but a traitor's flag which represented the owning of another human being.

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"We fly our Confederate Flag with pride. It is flown as the sign of our HERITAGE not HATE. No different than anyone else who flies a flag other than the US flag. If someone can fly a Mexico, Iran. or Mozambique flag because of their heritage. How dare any of you all call us racist for flying a flag of our heritage. Get over it."

And then you called me a racist. Go figure... But wait, those are NATIONAL flags that you mentioned. Nations of which these ppl may have been born, or their parents or grandparents.

That flag of your pride, represents the ppl that fought to preserve slavery. A bunch of lazy ass rednecks that would not get off their asses and work for themselves. Thats your pride? Enjoy...

And then you later twist it into saying the Republicans fought to end slavery.... Your false-flag waving southern good ole boys were terrorists, and treason is punishable by death.

Glad to you reminded us of your heritage of southern christians that practiced slavery, and fought to preserve it. It's mighty white of ya....

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VACPL but the NYC citizens did hang blacks in New York just for being black.

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Mari, I don't need to explain myself to 8 inch he is one of the biggest racist in the forums. If you care to go back through my post and see were I am coming from please feel free to do so. But as far as the Nazi flag to the Confederate flag they are no way close.I don't think we were tracking down the Africans to put in a gas chamber. The South did not put them in Ghettos and starve them to death.I am sure many were mistreated.Plus slavery was just not in the south slaves were also held in the north and if you do your research they used them in factories for free labor.Like I stated before I am not saying slavery was right far from it.Maybe it is because of were I have grown up not many Blacks pay much attention to the flag. Like I said it is part of this counties history and no one will ever change that.

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Vacpl, 8inch analogized your stars and bars to the swastika. If you see a flaw in his analogy, then say so. Simply repeating the same arguments others offer over and over again make you sound like nothing more than a parrot.

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Norcal, I completely understand your position. And to some extent, I agree with you.

In the same vein, I don't immediately assume that a kid under a white sheet on Halloween is pretending to be a Klan member. The first thing I see is a ghost. Granted, he may be a Klan member, but I'm not going to just assume by association. That just makes me a bigoted asshole. Racism is a rampant issue, especially in the south, but I've seen it from coast to coast. You don't have to display a rebel flag to be a racist though. I've met racists driving window-stickerless Mercedes too.

I have my own personal reasons for not seeing anything racist or evil about a symbol. You have yours for seeing the evil in it. I don't intend to push my viewpoint onto you as gospel, and I would hope you'd afford me the same luxury. That's the groovy thing about being an American isn't it? You don't have to like what you see, and you will always have the freedom to look away. You aren't forced to understand it and no one gets to make you believe in it.

And 8inch, I'm sure every Jewish kid with a history book has taken a swastika into a Temple. Surprisingly enough, it's never once been an issue. Anyone who would "choose" to send a crate full of them into a Temple isn't right in the head anyway and has far greater problems to deal with than simply being anti-Semitic or a racist douche.

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We fly our Confederate Flag with pride. It is flown as the sign of our HERITAGE not HATE. No different than anyone else who flies a flag other than the US flag. If someone can fly a Mexico, Iran. or Mozambique flag because of their heritage. How dare any of you all call us racist for flying a flag of our heritage. Get over it.

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