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Something else for you to read:: Tariff of 1828 What would happen today if this kind of bill was passed??

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"This resulted in the idea of nullification, whereby the states would have the right to rule federal acts unconstitutional. The federal government denied states this right."

Well yeah. If we're talking about the US Constitution, then it's the same interpretation for all states. Otherwise, we're not a nation.

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States versus federal rights.

Since the time of the Revolution, two camps emerged: those arguing for greater states rights and those arguing that the federal government needed to have more control. The first organized government in the US after the American Revolution was under the Articles of Confederation. The thirteen states formed a loose confederation with a very weak federal government. However, when problems arose, the weakness of this form of government caused the leaders of the time to come together at the Constitutional Convention and create, in secret, the US Constitution. Strong proponents of states rights like Thomas Jefferson and Patrick Henry were not present at this meeting. Many felt that the new constitution ignored the rights of states to continue to act independently. They felt that the states should still have the right to decide if they were willing to accept certain federal acts. This resulted in the idea of nullification, whereby the states would have the right to rule federal acts unconstitutional. The federal government denied states this right. However, proponents such as John C. Calhoun fought vehemently for nullification. When nullification would not work and states felt that they were no longer respected, they moved towards secession.

People need to remember that the US had not existed as a country long before the war started. We as a nation was going through growing pains.. There was still a lot on influence from the war we fought to become the US.

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It's. already been shown that only 1/4 of people in the south owned slaves. Assuming the confederate flag reprents pro-slavery is a ignorant. It's the same type of people who were offended by the word 'niggardly'

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Here is a lil info for some people. With the final ratification of the Thirteenth Amendment to the Constitution in December 1865. Slaves still held in Tennessee, Kentucky, Kansas, New Jersey, Delaware, West Virginia, Maryland, Missouri, Washington, D.C., and twelve parishes of Louisiana also became legally free on this date.

I do think that there is some states in the North

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vacpl, the South was obviously about much more than the topic of slavery. The rebel flag, however, was and is the symbol of the South's resistance to the majority American belief that slavery was horrible and had to end.

Germany isn't "all about" the Nazis, or the Holocaust, or WW2. But the flag with the swastika certainly makes the majority of people think of those bad parts of German history. That's why civilized people don't display it.

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Damn what a way to wake up in the morning to a bunch a history experts. Before you proclaim the South was all about slavery do some research on were slaves were located in the country. It was not just in the South. Look at their living conditions in the North. It may be a little hard to find because the North tried to hide how they worked their slave. So all you history experts get out your books read and learn. Don't go by what others have told you or get your info from Wiki with out taking the time to verify what you read on there. As we say American by Birth,Southern by the Grace of God!!

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".I don't think we were tracking down the Africans to put in a gas chamber."

No, just working them to death in the fields, breeding them for durability, having sex with some of them, selling them often enough to prevent families from forming, and other atrocities.

The rebel flag symbolizes just 5 years of aberrant and abhorrent behavior by those who led the South, preferring the destruction of the United States over modernization.

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Vacp:

"We fly our Confederate Flag with pride. It is flown as the sign of our HERITAGE not HATE. No different than anyone else who flies a flag other than the US flag. If someone can fly a Mexico, Iran. or Mozambique flag because of their heritage. How dare any of you all call us racist for flying a flag of our heritage. Get over it."

All of those other flags never tried to destroy the US. Even the Japanese and Germans never had any plans for wiping out the US...

The Japanese wanted breathing room and felt that sinking our Pacific fleet which we used to harass them with, would bring us to the peace table and we would leave them be.

The Germans initially wanted to be our friends and we rightfully told them to get lost. Even so, they only declared war against the US so to help Japan. The Germans aggression against our shipping to England was their ships ending the transport of weapons and supplies which helped England weather the bombings they suffered.... And to fight the German.

If your enemy was being kept alive by another shipping them goods, wouldn't you stop those goods so to hasten the death of your enemy?

The Confederate flag represents everything that was and still is wrong with this nation. Extremist ideals, ignorance, treason, and worst of all... Slavery.

You will never divorce the confederates flag from slavery and there for every time you fly it, you fly ignorance and slavery.

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Pandora:

"It's a heritage thing. Good or bad, you are PROUD of where you came from. It's a simple as that.

A flag is a symbol. Only YOU can give it power."

A heritage of protecting slavery? A proud heritage of protecting slavery?

The power we sane and anti confederate people give that confederate flag is simple... Nothing more than it being a blight.

You try and make it into a symbol of rebellion... But that rebellion tried to protect the institution of slavery at the point of a gun. You will never divorce the confederacy and its flag from what it represented and protected.... The right of one man to own another.

Fly it if you want, but accept that in a civilized land, you will face condemnation and ridicule for flying not only a traitors flag, but a traitor's flag which represented the owning of another human being.

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