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"If the far left feels so strongly about removing guns from society than start a movement to ammend the constitution and settle this once on for all. "

Amen!!

They can only circumvent the Constitution by appointing dufus Liberal Judges. They're at least smart enough to know that they don't have the support to amend the Constitution by the prescribed means.

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"Under the Second Amendment, could Congress create one or more citizen militias and then require anyone who wants to own a gun to join? "

Yes, the Second Amendment (Bill of rights) provides that Congress (The Federal Gov't) has some power.......................That could be the most stupid thing I've heard.

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..."a more compelling need for a large cache of firearms and ammunition..."

Is this a real need or a perceived need? Does everyone who lives in the country have this "compelling need for a large cache...? Does a less reasonable person have more rights than one who is realistic about needs?

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Obviously, the government can place reasonable limitations on gun ownership. The debate over assault rifle bans is political, not Constitutional.....Norcal's comments demonstrate why a person living in the remote countryside has a more compelling need for a large cache of firearms and ammunition than someone living next to a police station. This demonstrates why a one-size-all approach to gun regulation is inappropriate.

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The Militia Act of 1792 was repealed by the Militia Act of 1902, which basically consolidated all the organized militias into the National Guard..... Statutory law continues to recognize the existence of an unorganized militia, which basically includes any male between the ages of 17 and 45 who is not in the National Guard. This is the premise under which a President can institute a draft....The SCOTUS in Heller decided, 5-4, that the right to bear arms is an individual right, concluding that the prefatory clause "a well regulated militia being necessary for the security of a free State" merely announced a purpose for the right to bear arms, but could not be seen as a limitation.....It could be argued that the Court's slim majority in Heller engages in judicial activism by stretching the right to bear arms beyond the stated purpose of the right - going to show that both ends of the political spectrum can rely on or ignore "original intent" as it suits them in particular circumstances....Even the Supreme Court in Heller does not question whether government can regulate the individuals' possession of arms.....That is just the wishful thinking of the NRA and its followers who know a little bit about Constitutional law, but not a lot.

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It is clear that guns are an extension of manhood for so many of American males. In a world where we’ve been taught via school, mass-media culture, sports, and our communities that to be a man is to be aggressive, in control, and, yes, violent, being obsessed with guns is its logical conclusion. Until we begin to change definitions of manhood to peace, nonviolence, and the ability to settle conflicts or beefs civilly, gunplay will remain a very viable option for far too many of us.

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Senator Catharine Young, Republican of Olean, in western New York, said she had been receiving calls from constituents who were worried about what action the Legislature might take.

“The vast majority of people who own firearms in my district are law-abiding and extremely responsible,” Ms. Young said. “They aren’t the problem; it’s illegal guns and untreated mental illness that are the problems.”

Cracking down on high-powered weapons has long been a priority for many urban Democrats in the Legislature; to draw attention to the issue, one senator even went to a gun shop near Albany to buy ammunition for an AK-47 while the transaction was recorded with a hidden camera.

“A lot of people look at this as a battle between people who want to take away all the guns and people who want to have no restrictions on guns; but most members of the public and most members of the Legislature understand that reasonable restrictions on guns make sense,” said Assemblyman Brian Kavanagh, a Manhattan Democrat. Last weekend, he said, brought another reminder of the urgency at hand: a 16-year-old from Mr. Kavanagh’s district was shot dead on Friday.

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On Saturday, after the Senate Republicans called for stiffening penalties for violations of existing gun laws, but not tightening the assault weapons ban, Mr. Cuomo’s spokesman said the Republican proposal “insults the common sense of New Yorkers.”

Gun rights advocates argue that Mr. Cuomo is wrong to focus his attention on assault weapons; of 769 homicides in New York State in 2011, only five were committed with rifles of any kind, according to the State Division of Criminal Justice Services.

“This issue is not about guns, and the reason they are pushing the gun issue is because it’s much easier for them to say, ‘Look what we did; we’re going to make people safer in New York. We passed more gun laws,’ ” said Thomas H. King, the president of the New York State Rifle and Pistol Association. Mr. King, echoing the recommendation of the National Rifle Association, said that instead of banning certain guns, New York should require armed security at all schools.

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The state’s District Attorneys Association sent a letter to the governor and legislative leaders on Tuesday calling for, among other things, the elimination of a grandfather clause that allows some high-capacity magazines. And nearly 100 lawmakers have endorsed a set of proposals that includes limiting handgun purchases to one per month, requiring a new form of ballistics identification and putting in place universal background checks.

But Mr. Cuomo faces a complicated political landscape in Albany. The Assembly is controlled by Democrats who are eager for more gun restrictions, while the Senate this year is to be controlled by an unusual coalition of Republicans, who have largely resisted new gun laws, and dissident Democrats, who support more gun control. Mr. Cuomo, during his first half of his term, assiduously courted Senate Republicans, even persuading them to allow the vote that legalized same-sex marriage, but he has indicated that he is now willing to challenge the Republicans over the gun issue.

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New York’s existing assault weapons ban was approved in the aftermath of another mass shooting, at Columbine High School in 1999. The next year, Gov. George E. Pataki surprised his fellow Republicans by pushing through the Legislature a package of tough new gun laws, including the measure to outlaw assault weapons. But many high-powered rifles now in production are exempt from the ban because, advocacy groups say, manufacturers have altered their products to circumvent the law.

“This is a singular moment in the history of the gun control movement,” said Richard M. Aborn, the president of the Citizens Crime Commission of New York City. “The governor has the opportunity to set the high-water mark and continue New York’s leadership position in having the most effective gun control laws in the country.”

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