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Huge debt, unfunded programs, high taxes, gun control, crime and corruption

Chicago is where OWEBAMA is from........and it's where he's trying to take all of us.

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It's no wonder there's money for programs.

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Cook County Treasurer Maria Pappas was astonished by the amount of local government debt that Chicago-area households hold, according to a report released by her office on Tuesday.

The average debt per household in Chicago is over $63,000, based on municipal shortfalls and underfunded pension obligations. In the suburbs, the average is just under $33,000.

“We knew that debt and unfunded pension obligations were serious problems at the state and federal level and assumed that a similar pattern would follow at the local level. But, quite frankly, I was stunned by the depth of the crisis for local governments,” Pappas said in the statement. “This goes well beyond big cities, where you expect financial challenges. These fiscal problems permeate townships, villages, school districts, park districts, fire protection districts and more, and the taxpayers are on the hook.”

Local governments in Cook County hold a total of $108 billion in debt and unfunded pensions, according to the report. The latter term refers to the projected difference between the value of the governments' pension assets -- what workers will pay in, and the interest on that money -- and what the agencies will owe to retirees.

The Chicago Board of Education is one of the biggest holders of unfunded pension liability, totaling over $4 billion in unfunded pensions. The city of Chicago itself has just shy of $12 billion of the same.

All told, municipal bodies in Cook County have around $25 billion in unfunded pension liability, just under a quarter of the total debt in the area.

There is a fine irony in Pappas crying foul over heavy burdens placed on taxpayer dollars: earlier this year, she was the subject of a Better Government Association investigation indicating that she spent $94,000 a year in taxpayer dollars employing a driver and another $57,000 on a cleaning lady.

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We're too busy working 50-60 hours a week to pay the taxes for their 'programs'.

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"1 in 200 ppl in Asia are descendants of Khan he raped so many while conquering...."

Genghis Khan and his brother Don could not keep on keepin' on.

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Roc-em, are you really more qualified to prescribe gun control measures than the law enforcement departments of NYC, Chicago, and LA ?

Are you aware that the Chicago murder rate of the last few years is less than half what it was 20 years ago?

Do you think maybe a _national_ ban on certain guns would have even greater benefit in the reduction of shootings in _every_ locality?

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"Anti-gun laws do not work. I do feel though that Chicago has failed its youth and citizens by screwing up the CPS (Chicago Public Schools), over, taxation (pay the highest sales tax in the nation) and taking away programs to help. "

Liberals. Taxed the productive so much they all moved out. No money left for their 'programs to help'. Schools and School Boards run by liberals with the idiotic Dept. of Education at the top.

Liberalism always creates the exact opposite of it's stated intent.

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People are already making excuses for Lanza's mother.

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"Why do I defend a right I don't care a out or use? Because fear is contagious and when used as the left is doing in this case... It doesn't stop with the guns, next up is movies/games, then books/comics... At which point the Taliban can claim victory by default of our conversion to radical self destruction."

Robert, the conservatives have been blaming the nations ills on books, movies, music and video games for years. Everytime one of their little darlings does something unimaginable it's everyone/things fault. No way were they bad parents or were too involved in their lives that they didn't have a clue what the kid's doing.

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But for people to suggest that someone will just get a brick, knife or some other object doesn't hold water either.

History proves that they will find another weapon. You only have to ask yourself on question. Were there murders before there were guns?? Yes there were, and a larger portion of the populace was killed violently then than now. The reasons I say this are many. One is that those who dealt death by use of sword, ax, archery gear, or spear, were usually wearing some sort of protection. Medical science was nonexistent then and infections were a result of the violence at that time too. Another reason that applies to today's world is that when someone thinks you are in possession of a firearm that is usually a deterrent. Not all the time but a good part of the time. There is a big fantasy that all was good in the world before guns came along. That is completely and totally not true. Firearms are used in many, many defensive situations as well. The main stream media has to be kicked in the gonads to get them to cover these stories.... Do you realize that the shooter in the mall in Portland Oregon was stopped by an armed civilian???? Most people never heard that part of the story....

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