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All one has to do is look at History,

Don't get me going on some of the biggest anti semites of the past century, one being the father of one democratic president, and 2 senators. It isn't called the curse for no Reason, cause It looks like Karma is all Over that Family .

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looking that was well said and 100% true,But I bet we will not find one Lib. to agree,They will just spin and spin.

Mickey.

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Jub- you just figured it out did you? the democratic party is full of racists. Look at the real history of the party, Honestly look at it,

Which party was against freeing the slaves? which party created the KKK? Which party resisted de segregation?

Then ask yourself- why does the media act like the sky is falling in urban Predominantly white areas, Yet ignore crime in large cities? Why does this party push to keep people on entitlements? Why does the democratic party attempt to keep Certain demographic areas segregated through social programs? Look at the ligeral agenda, and thier spokesmen, and ask your self Why do liberal Minority leaders criticize those minorities who became successfull as being sellouts to thier race?

then ask why does this administration, one that claims to be of the "people" and for the "people" tend to hang around only the uber social elitists from hollywood etc.....

Is this Regime really for the People? or just the chosen people.

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Fjep:

I am in my company jeep, on top of a slate hill watching the mine as the workers work, thinking of what our society is lacking. I wrote everything I typed. Was it influanced by others? Yes. Philosophers past, writers present.

Besides science fiction, the second type of book I like to read is philosophy books written 100 plus years ago.

I find that only the philosophy books of about 300-400 years ago have any substance... But most are skewed so to be printed in a time that religion could execute a man for disagreeing with doctrine.

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Jub:

What I say is missing is a sense of self. A sense of responsibility to not only ones self, but to ones society.

Was the US forged in the fires of individualism? Yes. And when this nation as a child, it needed such strengths to forge ahead and like a child we crushed and destroyed not only african cultures but wiped out almost every native American between the east coast and the west coast.

We were a society based upon expansion and taming the wild. There is no more land to expand to, and the only wilds left are third world nations. The world won't let you commit genocide on them.

So individualism might need to be curbed a bit. Yes, if you do not like your employers pay being the legal minimum, you can always quit... And promptly starve like a slave was allowed to starve for not working the fields.

Just because you can choose not to work the fields and not be tied to a stake and have your body tortured, doesn't mean you aren't slave. We all are slaves to eachother. Welcome to the start of collectivism.

The problem with collectivism is it doesn't work well with capitalism and never with the human tendency for greed. Thankfully we humans have abandon tendency to randomly rape for dominance or matting.

But if we can evolve to end one bad tendency of our more primitive selves, why not the other?

Society as we have it today couldn't survive if we allowed our primitive selves to go around and rape and pillage like the days of old. So now we must evolve beyond only caring for our needs and start caring about the needs of the whole.

Globally you can see the shift towards this. The rise of theoretical communism, socialism, ect. Can capitalism compete? Yes, yes it can. But only if the leaders of our society (businessmen) choose to compete and choose to provide for their workers.

There exist no reason that a communist system which is born from a fudal system which never provided and over compensated can't be beaten by balancing the two.

There exist no reason that socialism, a system born out if desperation to spread the wealth and prevent greed from creating a permanent underclass, can't be beaten by a balanced system.

Well, no reason but greed by the leaders who teach your children to damage society and make personal profit by any means.

No reason but the greed of the strong to oppress and keep the weaker ignorant and bound to their scraps like a slave driver keeps his slaves in line by beating them, cutting off their ears or anything else that says "I own you."

Without balance, this nation will fall, it will break apart and the areas most hardest hit by the gang violence will become no mans land and the gun nuts really will have reason to fear as the government is given more powers by the fearful city drewllwrs to do what ever it takes.

Balance is the missing element. Both sides are missing it, may be neither side wants it?

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And what video game did you get all this malarkey from?

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Before I continue, I should point out Fjep as the classic example of the right.

Can anyone please read my post below his and point out where I said disarming people of assault rifles would reduce the number of dead by the numbers liberals make it sound like?

I can point out where I said it would only reduce it by 50 or at most 100 people. But leaving 400 or more dead. Even then, I stated that the reduction of the maginzine capacity would take a while to have the end result.

Fjep is the classics gun but example. If you aren't on his side, your wrong.

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Jub:

What that something is, is the question and the answer to that question, isn't likely to be as simple as paying for the services people render, or providing for the weakest amongst our people. It starts with the child's informative years and the problem isn't fixed by the time the child becomes an adult themselves.

The answer the right provides is more suffering to cure the sickness... Likely why the right holds the greatest number of religious radicals... If only you worship harder, the all mighty god who nuked two cities, and committed genocide against all life... Because we offended thee.

The left's answer of no one is at fault, theses people are sick is also equally short sighted.

We live in a society of greed, one on which if a child is abused... And not a ward of the state, you can't get that child the help they need unless you use religious charities... These charities and the phycologist there in tend to preech god or religion... They aren't of any help, more to someone who ask what use is a god who kills and claims to be so powerful? Logic dictates it isn't a god, because it was a limited being using death as a solution.

(I hope we have eleminates by now any illusion of talking about your god, because it wasn't there in the 40s to save 12,000,000 people... It has some explaining to do and until then... Is wanted dead or alive and in chains for genicide)

We live in a dog eat dog world where one may fall into such a acceptable level of poverty that they die or aren't able to seek medical help.

Bluntly put, we are careless and or heartless. Our rich cry when they face the prospect of losing their castles for a mansion so to pay for the society they created.

The left doesn't want to hear about holding people accountable, let alone children accountable so to teach them right from wrong.

Something's missing from both sides.... I wonder what?

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Dufus guns in Chicago are tightly regulated, and once against the law completely. Yet the murders continue unabated. Gun control is to keep guns out of the hands of the poor. It has nothing to do with guns and everything to do with control.

Just because you like being a pawn does not mean the rest of the world should be. I agree though that YOU should not be anywhere near a firearm. I suspect if Obama gets his way you will not be allowed them.

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Gun control has always been about disarming the poor people. The people with money and power will always have the guns they want. Initially it was purely to keep guns out of the hands of blacks. It is a shame most blacks do not know that history.

In history it has always been the poor who do the dirty part of fighting revolutions. They do most of the dying, but most times revolutions cannot be won without them. Of course the elite are bothered by legal gun ownership of the poor.

Even if the gun control measures go no where Obama and his goons have a victory. They have caused the price of firearms to inflate so high that the poor cannot afford to defend themselves. And in the crime ridden inner cities they deserve and need this right. It is a shame these people cannot see how they are being discriminated by the glorious leader.

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