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I don't mean to ruin your fantasy Robert but the BATF has ruled that there will be no armed drones over US soil watching our nation or our citizens. Several states are working on laws that mandate warrants to watch specific individuals or locations and making all drone activity outside of the warrants illegal. Texas is proposing a bill that includes the warrants except for over public land within 35 miles of the border. Surveillance

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What an idiot

Chicago Police Chief: Second Amendment Is A Danger To Public Safety (e.g)

Chicago’s Chief of Police, who previously blamed “government-sponsored racism” and Sarah Palin for Chicago’s gun violence, declared that the law-ful exercise of the Second Amendment was a threat to public safety. From the Illinois State Rifle Association:

Chicago’s embattled police superintendent dug himself deeper into a pit of controversy today by claiming that lawful firearm owners are agents of political corruption. Appearing on a Chicago Sunday morning talk show, superintendent Garry McCarthy expressed his conviction that firearm owners who lobby their elected representatives or who donate money to political campaigns are engaged in corruption that endangers public safety. McCarthy went on to express his belief that judges and legislators should rely on public opinion polls when interpreting our Constitution.

After totally dismissing the citizen’s right to redress grievances, McCarthy trained his constitutional wisdom on the 2nd Amendment. Despite recent court decisions to the contrary, McCarthy opined that the 2ndAmendment limits citizens to owning smooth-bore muskets. McCarthy went on to say that he believes that the 2nd Amendment supports mandatory liability insurance for firearm owners and the mandatory application of GPS tracking devices to civilian owned firearms.

“ Garry McCarthy ’s understanding of our Constitution barely qualifies him as a meter maid, never mind the chief of the nation’s third largest police department,” commented ISRA Executive Director Richard Pearson . “What on earth would possess McCarthy to assert that constitutional rights should be meted out based on public opinion polls? Let’s not forget that public opinion polls once opposed a woman’s right to vote while it would be a safe bet that, at one time, polls would have shown lynching as an acceptable form of justice. It has been said that our Constitution exists to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority. McCarthy’s view of our Constitution is dangerous and unbecoming of a civil servant.”

“McCarthy needs to understand that the lawful firearm owners of this state will continue to lobby their representatives and continue to support candidates who represent their interests,” continued Pearson. “If Garry McCarthy doesn’t like that, well that’s just too bad. If McCarthy is so interested in influence peddling, he should pop into some of the gin mills ringing the Illinois Capitol and count the ruddy red noses of taxpayer-funded lobbyists for the City of Chicago.”

McCarthy’s assertion that the Founders limited arms to smooth bore muskets is demonstrably false as well.

McCarthy has previously said that Illinois “does not have strict gun laws” and that stricter laws were needed in order to adequately combat crimes committed by those illegally possessing firearms.

It’s a concerning prejudice against law-abiding citizens from an official who has the authority to arrest and give orders to fire at them.

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Please get off this kick of what I can or cannot do. In fact we have already won this battle, see OP. A few residents of some libtard states got screwed, but the good news is they have the option of moving to a state with liberty. Nobody needs to shoot anything, or blow anything up so you can jack off on the thought of planes or drones killing US citizens.

All the grandstanding and dancing in the blood of unfortunate victims has backfired on Obama. Now those people who thought he was not so bad now know what a terrible stench laden piece of crap he is. Hopefully using the system he will be impeached before he gets embarrassed anymore.

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It isn't my fear you need to fear or dislike. I am against baning guns. It is the fear of the general public and the growing trend to ban guns which is fed by the rights unwillingness to allow for any change, any real debate.

When you keep falling back to the same statements and claims that the second amendment was for allowing you to wage war against the US government... In the modern era, war means tanks, it means air craft, it means modern tech... All of which you cannot own.

What you can own is a few guns and gasoline. What you can do is make home made bombs and IEDs... What you keep making the public think you and the militias are poised to do is turn the US into Iraq... As Vacp has alluded to being willing to do.

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Bobby I could care less about your fears, unless you are anywhere near a school.

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I see that you made no attempt to address public fear caused by perceptions? Do you like seeking two dimensional by not factoring in the general public?

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"1) the M4 is loud. And it does have a recoil... "

All firearms are loud and have recoil, but some have very low noise level and very little recoil. The M-16/M-4/GAU being one of them. The noise is so low the distinctive ping can be heard from a AR. The recoil is so low a child can easily fire one very accurately. My 1894 .357 has more noise and recoil than a M-4, and it is a pistol round fired from a rifle.

You are full of shit!

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The only point I was trying to address was Bobbies that the guns of today are more "deadly" than the guns of WW2. We appear to be trying to make sense to Booby by different paths. All around some of the same rounds of WW2 are still used today, and most of the small arms of the past had more kinetic energy than rounds mainly used today. If Bobby had any actual firearms knowledge he would know this. His ignorance on the subject indicates he lied about his service.

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Fjep:

1) the M4 is loud. And it does have a recoil... I never said it was worst than either the AK or the M-16. Either way, the AK is more durable, has a larger round which gives it the better killing power and it's ammunition is cheap.

2) until WWI, the US soldier wasn't bringing home weapons which could fire more than a single round from a bolt action rifle. Not enough soldiers in any event.

This changed after WWII, when the weapons became more deadly and faster firing. Part of GE Germans problem is that they didn't adopt the machine gun fast enough.

So you are not going to tell me that a bolt action rifle (the average rifle of pre-WWI) can kill or wound the same number if people as an AR-15.

FYI, for public outrage, all you need to do is wound people. The more people wounded, the greater the outrage, the greater the fear factor.

Lastly the AR-15 is pleanty powerful enough to kill any child... Their bodies are smaller, organs more densely packed and the cartwheels the bullets do shred their insides far faster than you an adult.

Then you have the fact that a child will panic more, while an adult will k ow to stop panicking and slow the bleeding. Thus the cops who shoot themselves are better able to tend to their wounds.

Did I forget muzzle velocity? The police shooting themselves are shot closer which means the bullet passes through them better and cleaner.

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Fj I was trying to make a point to Robert about a sub power round from WWII that could kill as many people as an AR-15, The Thompson is a sub machine not a main battle rifle. And I do not need a lesson on ballistics. As I said I have made a living working on firearms. Ak's and AR's are intermediate rounds. Battle rifles are Full Power rounds.Yes the 45 and 7.62x51 are still used. Some of today's sniper rifles are stepping up some. Using 300 Win. Mag 300 Lapua Mag. and 338 Lapua Mag.

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