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"Laws of Nature and of Nature's *God*"

No fj, you are the uninformed moron. That phase is straight out of the Deist playbook.

Our founding fathers believed in God, but NOT the Christian god and they made SURE that was conveyed in our founding documents.

Get an education son....

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"They also kill and eat their weak and useless young! LMAO"

Yea I am guessing that the liberals really do not want that type of society. Especially Bobby...

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"Animals other than humans have social order, chimps, apes, wolves, fish, and birds. But they have no religion or morals."

They also kill and eat their weak and useless young! LMAO

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Bobby, without man there is no religion, so of course man did them. Duhhhhhhh!

But law and morality have been based on a believe system from the beginning. All do not have to believe to change that fact. Where those systems are weak such as Somalia there is more chaos. Somalia is anarchism at it's best or worst however you want to look at it. It is based on taking what you want without regard for morality.

While laws should be held to a minimum some laws are necessary for order even if you do not like them. The very thing that helped make laws just or unjust was a believe system. BTW almost all societies have had slavery, and there are some that still do.

I am still waiting on you to name a moral society not based on religion...

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Fjep:

Religion has done none of these things, man did them. The reason people like me are after a society like denmarks is that we don't. Are what you do in your home or place of worship, so long as it doesn't affecet society.

Religion in the us affects society and in a negative way. It is used to create division and hate, it is used to blind people to true morality of the betterment of humanity under laws made to govoren all humans.

Religion doesn't seperate us from animals, our ability to think beyond greed and lust allows this defining like to be drawn and to create religion.

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Animals other than humans have social order, chimps, apes, wolves, fish, and birds. But they have no religion or morals. They rape, they kill, they steal when they need, or if they feel threatened. Within these societies there are lower(slaves) and upper levels. In wolves a lower level will be killed if it does not submit to the the alpha.

While religion has done some awful things remember it was always based on the morality and socialism of the many. But without religion defining some sort of morals whether you like it or not, we would all be following the rules that domination sets, not morality.

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Why is there Headstart? Why is their age cut offs for kids to start Kindergarten?

Punish a kid for being born a few days past the cut off?

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Sedu:

I will agree with you, no child left behind was a mistake. At the least the way we operate with it.

I agree all children within our sphere of influence should be educated to the best of our ability, but accept that not all children will be educated equally or to the best of our ability. Bullies need to be removed from the school so to educate the rest of the students that bullying isn't tolerated. (simplest means is calling the police and having the legal system deal with the assault as an assault.

When the legal system fails, then suspension and expulsion is in order. After the 6th grade, any student who attacks another student physically should be immediately suspended and upon any second offense within the same year, preeminently removed from the school system. (I am sure most all of us can agree that after 10 years old, you know not to hit another.)

Verbal abuse by other students is harder to stop, however there comes a time when the damage can be measured by professionals and thus while in school punitive action taken against the verbal assailants and when out of school.. the legal system.

The greatest problem however is that our society refuses personal responsiblity in raising their kids... and in a growing number of cases I can not blame this mentality on the parents alone. Businesses have reduced the standard of living in the US to the point that a single parent on minimum wage or close to it cannot raise a family, let alone provide for themselves.

As such there is no parents in the household, the parents are working 10 to 15 hours a day to provide a living, a standard of living above what we see in the third world.

Like the third world nations without power projection, without education, you have no future. Reduce the wage, reduce the income of the masses and you reduce buying power, reduce buying power you reduce the tax base, reduce the tax base, you reduce power projection.

It is all circular and it all starts with education.

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Fjep:

I answered your question, any one who would search for a society that has never known religion will not find such a society on Earth. However I never claimed that we could build such a society, I simply stated that we do not need religion to be moral.

You see, your problem is that you like control, the reason you dislike me is that you cannot control me. I will live a life of a poor individual if I must, if this is the price of being moral and not taking more than my share from society. (Becoming a businessman whos business is built upon taking advantage of the publics ignorance or paying my employees the minimum) Or I will become successful in my writings and other projects, either way I will have done this on my own, with my own money, not the governments, not yours, but my own hands.

note I have stated many times that I do not qualify for welfare or other government programs for the poor... Mostly because I live at home with my parents, despite paying bills, providing my services for rent and my car to help my sisters continue their education.

Everything I have, I earned through hard work. That is why your or Sedu's comments about failure to launch amuse me. I may live at home, but I work a job the maximum hours I can get... A job that allows me time to better my graphic art skills and writing technecs while on the job.

other employees have been caught and not punished for watching porn on the employers computers.. not even bothering to bring in the porn, or their own laptops... But on the clients computers... (personally had I been the employer, I would have fired the employees for the viewing of porn on the clients computers.)

I live a more moral life, a more humble life than you. I do not belittle people for their failures when they try to be better. You VA and others here on the right do not try to be better people (religion should not have to command this of you) and thus I will freely belittle you, for you deserve it.

Morality doesn't = religion and religion doesn't = morality.

Morality is being human and I find my god in the eyes of the children you and your kind would leave to suffer because their parents weren't as capable or didn't apply themselves as well as you. I find my god in the protential a human can be and that I why I know when I face off against your God/god/gods, I will slay them like cattle, for they are powerless over the hearts of men.

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Jew Smash! No.... Rejected like Jesus!

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