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all facts IF you care to check jnm, little buddy...hey it was gore himself that said it was OK to lie about global warming to advance his political motives.

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Went to pacify my mom. You think I'm liberal...

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I heard, also that the box office is very low on this one too...not interested enough to worry about the movie libs and what they have to say anyway, their just a pawn of special interests.

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There is a new movie in the same vein, "The 11th Hour". Leo Dicaprio narrates this one.

I found it so boring about half way through I wanted to gouge my eyes out with my fingers.

Haven't seen Gore's movie.

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To be sure, there is a small group within Al Gore’s group of “experts” who have some knowledge of weather patterns. These scientists are computer “modelers.” They concoct computer models of hypothetical (that is the operative word here) weather scenarios and those models have been consistently wrong, time after time. In fact, because they have allowed those that make governmental polices to use their models as “scientific fact” to make those policies. This is disingenuous at best for they are in effect saying that their models are forecasts when they are anything but forecasts.

A well noted paleoclimatoligist, Dr. Timothy Patterson of Carleton University, recently testified that, “There is no meaningful correlation between CO2 levels and Earth’s temperature over this (current geologic) time frame. In fact, when CO2 levels were over ten times higher than they are now, about 450 million years ago, the planet was in the depths of the absolute coldest period in the last half billion years. On the basis of this evidence, how could anyone still believe that the recent relatively small increase in CO2 levels would be the major cause of the past century’s modest warming?” Dr. Patterson concluded his testimony before the Commons Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development what his research and the research of “hundreds of other scientists” have discovered, “on all time scales, there is very good correlation between Earth’s temperature and natural celestial phenomena such changes in the brightness of the Sun.”

Around the world, scientists from many nations, especially those nations that have a vested interest in understand how climate affects them, like Finland, Norway, and others have countered every claim that Al Gore has made regarding the calving of glaciers, snowfalls and ice pack depths. Sadly, in this country, many are not listening because to do so would be to admit that a scientist other than an American scientist, especially one whose discipline is actually in the field of climatology, might prove American “junk” science wrong. Sadder still, our own government would rather listen to our own “junk” scientists than those that might actually know what they are talking about.

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But Al Gore has not gotten it right; he never had it right to begin with. From claiming to have invented the internet, to being the role model for the love interest in Love Story by Eric Siegel, Al Gore has lied to the public. His book Earth in the Balance was also filled with half truths, outright lies, and junk science. Never mind that the scientists quoted in the book, like those in his movie, have no idea what they are talking about; they are scientists and that is all that matters to Al Gore.

Allow me to point out some examples: Professor Robert Carter of Australia states, “Gore’s circumstantial arguments are so weak that they are pathetic. It is simply incredible that they, and his film, are commanding public attention.” Professor Carter works at the Marine Geophysical Laboratory at James Cook University, in Australia. Climatology as it relates to the oceans is one of his disciplines. He knows whereof he speaks and yet, you will not find his remarks concerning Al Gore’s movie carried by the MSM. (Mainstream Media) Professor Carter is one of hundreds of meteorological and climatological scientists who are not part of a government group, or lobby group, or industrial group who might have a “vested interest” in seeing any agenda pushed forward. In addition, all of these non-vested scientists are highly qualified in their respected fields. In fact, these unquoted and ignored scientists are experts in climate change and they contest the hypothesis that humans are responsible for climate change through the increase of CO2 emissions that have been made by humans. The scientists that Gore uses to push his agenda think it is immaterial that they do not work in the field in which they are discussing. This would be akin to an atheist expressing the characteristics of a God he does not believe exists.

Dr. Timothy Ball, formerly a professor of climatology at the University of Winnipeg asserts, “While many are highly skilled researchers, they generally do not have special knowledge about the causes of global climate change. They usually can tell us only about the effects of changes in the local environment where they conduct their studies.” For example, a biologist might study everything from insects to animals and the focus of their study might be how climate changes affect them, he has no or limited knowledge of what produced those climatic changes.

In the 1800’s a small volcanic island near Sumatra literally exploded. When Krakatoa blew, geologists believe the energy force of that explosion was equivalent to 1,300 Hiroshima bombs going off at one time. The column of ash and gases rose an astounding 40 miles before gravity pulled the heavier pieces back down to earth. Three years following the explosion of the volcano, sunsets around the earth were seen through the filter of the hydrocarbon cloud for a period of three years. The effects were felt around the earth; temperatures dropped in temperate zones approximately three to ten degrees on average, growing seasons were shortened and winter was lengthened for a few years. Further, every minute that Krakatoa was erupting prior to the final blast that blew away 80% of the island, one million metric tons of ash, gases, and pumice were thrown into the atmosphere. Is it Al Gore and his cadre of unspecialized scientists that man has done more to “pollute” the earth than the earth itself? How many volcanoes have gone off since Krakatoa? How many metric tons of debris and CO2 as well as other gases have been ejected from these volcanoes into our atmosphere? Have there been no climatic changes as a result?

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Al Gore has become the new darling once again of the Hollywood liberals; that group of vacuous non-thinkers on the left coast. His movie is the talk of the town even if it is not the talk of Middle America. Al must have taken lessons from Michael Moore in how to slap together out right lies, innuendos, half truths, and how to quote completely out of context in order to make the rest of liberal America run around shouting doom and gloom from the mountain tops.

In his movie he proclaims, “Scientists have an independent obligation to respect and present the truth as they see it.” Al Gore reminds me of the serpent in the Garden of Eden. The serpent quoted God but only partly to Eve, making his half truth seem to be truth and he attributed it to someone else. Of course he is correct, Scientists do have an obligation to speak the truth as they see it. Even if the scientific truth is not in their field of expertise. I have a neighbor who has a Ph.D. in geology; he often speaks about how man is “screwing up the climate.” He serves up half baked scientific explanations regarding climatology and meteorology, neither discipline were necessary for him to study to receive his advanced degree. And yet, he often expounds on the subject and pontificates to others his belief, based on the best “science” available that man alone is responsible for the climatic changes. He believes Al Gore “got it right” with his movie. Strangely, he is a conservative and an evangelical Christian; or so he claims.

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An Inconvenient Truth: Exposing the Global Warming Myth The inconvenient truth is finally here: Al Gore will never be President of the United States. Well...it's inconvenient to him, but very convenient to those of us in the world who still actually have our sanity. In his new "documentary," Gore pretends to be the compassionate and caring humanitarian concerned with the future of our children living in an environment full of massive category bazillion hurricanes and average daily temperatures in the million degrees range. In truth, this quackumentary has but one goal for the future: get Al Gore elected President in 2008, a notion far more disturbing for our children than global warming.

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just like the lib who said it was ok to lie about global warming..algore

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Yep, this is going to be a great election season...the libs are traitors and the people in the US will not stand for that no matter how much the libs lie to them.

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