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TOPIC: A look inside us: What shaped your political beliefs
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Liberalism’s distortions of the normal ability to reason can only be understood as the product of psychopathology. So extravagant are the patterns of thinking, emoting, behaving and relating that characterize the liberal mind that its relentless protests and demands become understandable only as disorders of the psyche. The modern liberal mind, its distorted perceptions and its destructive agenda are the product of disturbed personalities. As is the case in all personality disturbance, defects of this type represent serious failures in development processes. Dr. Lyle H. Rossiter

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It's easy to post a reason not to like a party. I've done it. But the attraction of a party is the general philosophical viewpoints it presents. Tbr clearly stated that both parties see the poor as an afterthought. This is how I see it:

I believe the intentions of both parties is to elevate the country and leave no one behind. However, the approach is clearly different. One party believes in the redistribution of wealth - socialism. They want to elevate those who have none, or very little, closer to those that have more. They see an abuse of capital power similar to the Robber Barons. They, however, have history on their side which is the reason we have unions.

The other party believes in its simplistic format: if you want it, get off your ass and work for it! This approach is encouraged to all - not some. They don't want to share forcibly (in a form of taxation) but will do so if they want. This term will be called socially responsible capitalist (charitable contributions). However, not all capitalist are charitable. They believe that the individual is fully responsible for their own economic conditions.

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And Sappy and JNM think I am the only one who see this to be fact....Short and sweet just the way they hate it LOL Nice post December.

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Well said and very correct December!

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Major, Funlady, December&March, Darch:

Thank you all for giving thoughtful consideration to my question, and I found it truly helpful to learn how each of you have come to hold the beliefs that you do.

The positions you hold--whether I personally agree with them or not--make sense to me as I see you explain the development and evolution of your views.

My own personal experiences have led me to some other conclusions. Instead of saying prayers at night, my father had me memorize and recite passages from FDR speeches. I also came of age in the 1960s when Nixon became for me the embodiment of a terrible president. My Mom always embraced "love thy neighbor" and both my parents were very active in local politics, giving me a civic dimension. My Mom and Dad always set an example for me of rooting for the underdog. They both hated the Yankees and loved the Mets when the Mets were the worst team in baseball.

I loved baseball and I was first introduced to racism and segregation by reading biographies of my boyhood idol--Willie Mays--and Satchel Paige.

I also fell in love with studying history, politics and American culture from the era of the American Revolution through the Civil War and beyond, and my politics has been shaped by my love of Thomas Paine, the founding fathers, and Lincoln. I feel America at its foundation was committed to a liberal, progressive politics, emphasizing a commitment to liberty, justice and equality for all (despite the sanction it gave to slavery), and the pursuit of a more perfect union and the promotion of the general welfare (as articulated in the Constitution).

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"However, the message they espouse is government dependency."

Really now. Seems to me that Bill Clinton was all about welfare reform.

Looking as one who is totally jaded with both parties. Both sides are about government dependency.

The Repubs are about business dependent on the government. The Dems are about business dependent on the government.

The poor people are really an afterthought for the Dems. As I have said before, the entire cash aid program can be zeroed out and the deficit will be reduced by 5%. Not the budget, the deficit.

The poor are less than an afterthought for the Repubs. They have forgotten where they came from, or what Jesus said about the poor, and are only about the next tax cut, or the next war.

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Joe - The Democratic Party - for right or wrong reasons - have made great inroads with the Black and Hispanic communities. They've gone out of their way to see elected representation throughout the different governmental levels. However, the message they espouse is government dependency.

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Well said December very well said indeed. I've seen that happening for years with the democratic party. And you know the real shame about it? Most Blacks know that they are making false promises and take our vote for granted. But relations between Blacks and the Republican party is so toxic, that many Blacks feel as if they have no real choice but to vote democrat or stay home.

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It was sometime after I read the "Capitalist Manifesto" that attracted me to the Republican Party. Here, with limited minorities being represented, I found a home - that was in the mid 80's. Although I didn't share many of its platform, I found that as a business person, they were the party who best represented the small business interest. I joined NFIB (National Federation of Independent Businesses) and began to pay attention to our political leaders. Legislation introduced by Democrats were clearly very unfavorable to "small business" whereby the Republicans were constantly battling to defeat unfriendly legislation. ( In California, Republicans are the minority party.)

Although you do have Democrats that are pro-business, they are even fewer and constantly over-ruled.

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My political viewpoints did not formulate until I was in college. I became a "leftist". I read Karl Marx and Lenin. Engaged in political forums. Became active in the socialist movement in New York City. I participated in boycotts and demonstrations. Moved to California and frequented the socialist bookstores there. Truly believed that "capitalism" was the evil of all evils.

Then I read "The Capitalist Manifesto"and everything changed. For the first time, I "listened" to the Democratic Party leaders and elected officials. I could not believe what they were saying - they were simply pandering to the Latino and Black communities. Making ridiculous promises and not following up on it. But THAT's the problem! They were, in essence, enslaving the minority population to government entitlements. The "we'll feed you by fishing for you" and "we'll protect you from the mean rich people" instead of "we'll teach you how to fish" and "you have the responsibility to do right for your self". This is in its simplest form of explanation.

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