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TOPIC: A Democratic Administration's plan to fight The War On Terror
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If you look up the history of the Vietnam, it's dates are from 1959 to 1975. Eisenhower (a republican president) sent in the first military advisors in 1955. Kennedy (a dem) sent in the first combat troops increasing the USA military presence from 500 to 16000 and Johnson (a dem) further escalated the USA involvement into what we consider the Vietnam War.

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And thank you very much but the VN war was started, escalated and lost on a Democrats watch, the troops came home under a Republican. Your are right though, you have just pointed out what is wrong with the D party today, before you had good men and hero's as leaders, today they are socialist and marxists, cowards and traitors.

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"Convenient statistic manipulation, as usual."

I quite clearly identified my sample population as "Major wars since 1900."

My history books say the Civil War ended in 1865, i.e. before 1900.

Really, try to pay attention.

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"Then you will beg us on the right to save you, again."

Lets look at that statement in the historical context.

There have been five major wars (not including the present one) we have been involved in since 1900.

WWI-ended on Democratic administration-won WWII-ended on Democratic administration-won Korea-ended on Republican administration-draw Vietnam-ended on Republican administration-lost Gulf War I-Ended on Republican administration-won

Democrats are 2-0. Republicans are 1-1-1.

So who knows how to run a war?

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Because it took 1000 years to get this way as you point out and the libs won't give us the time to fix it...soooooooo as nike would say "NUKEIT"

Destin FL
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"Or we could killem all!"

What is it with the right's fascination with violence?

It seems as if there response to every situation is to get a bigger hammer.

I suppose given enough time and treasure, that would have a chance to succeed. However, there are over a billion of them, and only 300 million of us.

And that certainly wouldn't do much towards winning the hearts and minds, which most of the experts say is the best strategy.

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Or we could killem all!

I know it is a tough job and the Lib's have no backbone but at least give it a chance and see. Petraeus himself said he will not allow the troops to stay in a totally losing situation. I do believe the commanders on the ground know more about what is really happening than we do or the politicians.

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Past history is the best predictor of future behavior.

Try to spin it all you want, however there are very few successful counter insurgency campaigns in history, not only in this century, but any century.

It has nothing to do with the heroism, competence, or desire of our combat troops. For the force structure they have, the only army that might hold a candle to them is Israel.

The experts say that the only way to succeed in a counter insurgency is to "win the hearts and minds" of the indigenous population. Given the sectarian strife over the past thousand years, I doubt we can succeed there either.

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I guess you were not in the Military and have no idea how the system between congress and the Military operates. The US Military does not succeed ONLY when congress does not have the stomach for the conflict and pulls funding or orders them home. The fault is squarely on the politicians.

So don't dishonor a true Patriot and honorable soldier.

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The betrayal of the troops is to leave them in a situation that they have no chance to be successful.

There has been one fairly successful counter-insurgency campaign this century. The rest have been failures.

British-Malay-success French-Algeria-failure US-Vietnam-failure Turks-Arabs-failure German-French-failure German-Russia-failure Israel-Lebanon-failure Belgian-Congo-failure

Shall I go on?

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