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re: The school contract.

Someone pointed this out. If Wiki is to be believed, the term "African American" did not come into use until the mid-1980s.

"When did people start using the terms Native American, Asian American and African American? Certainly not in the 1970s, when in these ethnic groups would have been referred to, respectively, as Indian, Oriental (or just simply "Asian") and Colored (or possibly Negro). If Ferndale was using the terms in this sentence in the 1970s, it was way, way, way ahead of the curve. I suppose it's possible that they updated the terms for more recent contracts, but if that's the case, then it means they read the sentence in question"

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"Do you foresee a situation in the future where 3/5 of both legislative houses in Illinois, the Governor, and the public all would support a repeal? "

Not in the foreseeable future, not in Illinois. I am a little impressed that people want to actually change a Constitution, instead of just pretending it means something that it obviously doesn't.

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A blast from the forum past:

"Illinois took the unprecedented step of dramatically increasing taxes in Jan. 2011, retroactive to Jan. 1. This increased the personal income tax from 3% to 5% (a 67% increase), and the corporate income tax from 7.3% to 9.5% (a 30% increase). This was supposed to generate an additional $6 billion to cover some of their $13 billion deficit. Increased social spending programs were supposed to reduce Illinois' unemployment rate from 9.0%. "

Update! 03/12:

"A new report released by Auditor General Bill Holland reveals that the net financial position of Illinois state government activities continued to deteriorate and the deficit increased by $1.2 billion from FY12 to FY13.

Overall, the net position of governmental activities is reported as a deficit of $47.8 billion."

The unemployment rate has plummeted from 9.0% all the way to 8.7%.

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In principle, yes.

Do you foresee a situation in the future where 3/5 of both legislative houses in Illinois, the Governor, and the public all would support a repeal?

Put another way - do you think Illinois's people and government would ever overwhelmingly support a tax cut for millionaires? No. They'll be stuck with it forever. Results be damned.

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If they can vote to put it in their Constitution, I would imagine they could vote to remove it.

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I'm not really addressing taxation rates, more like the concept of writing them into the constitution. I can only guess the reasoning is to cement it in place so solidly that no election outcome will ever be able to change it.

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They recently put "water run off tax" in place here. Basically its a tax on how much impermeable surface you have. So if you happen to own a business with something crazy like a parking lot you get significant tax added to all the other goose-killing taxes. (ie they kill the goose that lays the golden eggs).

Not counting accounting fees and sales taxes I'm taxed at about 57%. I'm also not counting property taxes on my personal property, I really just don't want to know.


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I've never heard of such a thing.

Illinois House Speaker Michael Madigan (D-Chicago) proposed a constitutional amendment Thursday. Under the proposal, a 3 percent tax would be incurred on all income over $1 million.

As for concern that high earners might leave the state, "“Well, if they’re in Illinois today, they’re probably so much in love with Illinois that they’re not going to leave,” Madigan said. "

What's that mean? We've done everything we can to chase them out but some of them are still here in spite of the shitty weather?

Putting a tax increase to the ballot is not what I am surprised about. It is writing tax rates directly into the state constitution. I'm guessing this is to cement it in so solidly that only a supermajority and overwhelming public support can undo it.

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Good:

Sadly.

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The language may get deleted, but you can bet that the practice will still be, well, practiced.

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