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Exactly right, 2Saint, Kids are being taught by our socialistic, Union dominated School system that they are wonderful little creatures all, and if anything goes wrong, they should follow our Presidents policy of blaming somebody else, asking for help from those paying taxes (it's only their FARESHARE), and making up a bullshit story about it that try's to make him look good. He hires people like Sandra Rice to add Monkey Shit to the story, too. Kids are picking up fast on how to discharge oneself of responsibility. Back when I was a kid, we called guys like that cheats, crooks, liars and cowards.

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Hell sexy parents stopped teaching that at home. All those things I learned way before i started going to school.

One other thing kids don't learn nowdays and that there are consequences for every action.

But maybe that's the new evolution, maybe we are headed to an Idiocracy type world.

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A few things they don't teach in school these days are:

1. Lean to respect your elders for they have experience; you don't. 2. Obey your Mother and your father. 3. Learn that life is not, repeat not, all about you. 4. Listen, listen, and then listen and learn. While doing so, keep your mouth shut. 5. Try your best to get straight A's. If not, work harder until you do. 6. Think hard every day how you can help do the family chores. Learn to spot what needs to be done and do it - all by your self. 7. Stop thinking you are Gods gift to humanity, and thus are owed anything by others. 8. Learn how to accept your mistakes and learn from them - instead of blaming others for your problems and mistakes. 9. Think of others before you think about yourself - especially other family members. 10. Always try your best to contribute more to society than you receive. 11. Always - ALWAYS, try your best to be PRODUCTIVE!

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That's one company, and have you stop to think that maybe you worn't capable of moving up because of your work ethic. Every smart business man out there knows it's always better to promote from with in than to hire from the outside. It motivates your work force to be loyal and work harder.

You seem to think I come from a better economic level than you, helll most likely I come from a lower one, My old man never earned more than 1500. a month and my mother was a stay at home mom. I started working when I was 11 yrs old. So don't tell me that a man can not left himself up by his own boot straps Just because you haven't been able to do so..

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2saint:

What part of no skills, no upward mobility do you not understand?

I worked at giant food from when I was 15, ending at 24. Never once was a worker promoted to assistant manager without first having an associates in business, and manager without having a batchlers degree in business management.

Giant would sooner take a fresh out of college bachelor student and make them a manager, than their fifty year old workers who worked the job sense the company first entered Hazleton.

Education = skills. Experience is just icening on the cake these days.

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So why don't you tell me how well all those new methods or working out for you. Seem I don't remember kids shooting up schools or 12yr old girls stabbing their friend 19 times to empress a fictional character when I was growing up.

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Well Boddy you can look at it this way, If one is able they can pay to go to collage and then still have no experience when they enter the work force or if you are like my family (coming for meager means) you can start work young at the bottom and gain the skills you need and if done right be above the of a college grad of the same age. The point is you do what you have to do. And so you will know being poor today is no different than it was when I was you age. When I was 21 I worked 60 hrs plus a week for a measly 900. a month and had a wife and kid to care for. It wasn't easy but again You do what you have to do or you die.

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As for sparing the rod, spoil the child? Bull shit.

It has been proven that the only thing the rid taught anyone was not to be caught, to use violence to obtain what you want, to become more abusive toward others and to become less sympathetic toward the plight of others.

It did not teach right from wrong, only that might makes right. The government started to step in when mass media was invented and people coast to coast began to hear more accounts of abuse. These abuses didn't increase in frequency after the invention of the radio or TV, rather like the hysteria over the end times that resulted in our broadening awareness of global events, we became more aware of the rods abusive results.

Further, it is a fact that slaves were beaten into submission. A child is totally dependent upon their parents for everything. If you strike someone, you intend to enslave it to your demands and desires. You in effect deny it their own growth. So we demand that you learn better ways to guide the child's growth, and that involves learning to become more involved in the child's daily life.

Not to be confused with helicopter parents who choose everything the child does. Rather you must learn to use reason and logic, explaining it to the child and rewarding good behavior. When compared to even three decades ago, you have many more tools, carrots to use than you once did.

Punitive actions such as revolking access to the Internet, cell phones, video games, are but three new age carrots to be taken and returned once good behavior is restored and proven. This however requires the parents involvement in their child's life. That means being home more often, and that means not working past the time your kid returns from school.

Society has evolved beyond the 19th century, it is time your actions reflect this evolution.

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2saint:

I do not know much about your state, but here in PA, a chief doesn't hire anyone without atleast an associate degree in culinary arts and a bachelors is better.

Personally I see any degree with a prefix, subject or suffix that includes the word art as a waste of time and money. But I am a bitter art student who knows better than to run for political office. :-)

Before you ask, the answer to why more people (young especially) move to states like your own? Because we will not subject ourselves to your mentality of meaningless work. If you gain profit from our labors, we profit too or you no longer have our labors. The idea of work before gaining the reward died when your generation sold the idea to the third world and reduced 20 year veterans of any field must accept less pay, because there are more qualified workers.

We know the pools are against us, we have already figured the math out. So instead of playing your game, you are going to play ours or we will keep voting for a more socialist government that gives money to the unemployed and underemployed.

Now we has left you with two options. Adapt to our demands, or be taxed as our voice grows in strength. You will ensure our voice grows as you reduce the worth of others.

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Incompetent parents with unruly children.

Wouldn't that be your generation. ( the one we raised)

I'll tell you when thing went wrong. When the government step in an started trying to tell us how to raise our own children.

Spare the rod spoil the child.

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