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Bindi Irwin is caught in a tangled legal web ... her "Dancing With The Stars" contract just got rejected because a judge needs proof her dad is dead.

Lawyers for the show submitted a minor's contract to an L.A. Superior Court judge ... it's required because Bindi is 17. Her mom Terri signed a form stating she gives up all rights to any money her daughter will make on the show.

Here's the rub. For some reason the judge wants the same release from Bindi's dad, the late Steve Irwin?. The judge said without proof of Steve giving up his rights to Bindi's money, "the court is unable to find that it is in the best interest of the minor to be bound by the terms of the contract."

It's unclear if the judge is unaware Steve died in 2006, or if she's just a stickler for a death certificate.

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I think I am taking my three plants on vacation with me as I don't want to depend on anyone to take care of them. They may be coming to NYC in December too.

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yeah i got that. i just wanted to point out that it's not only women: it's also men, children, and seniors who are included in the "consent" issue for rape cases.

the decision to allow the defense for excluding BAC test results is BSC but that's JMO.

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"and likely to make many see red."

I think that'll be because people aren't understanding what he's saying. He might have used this example purposefully to see who would fall into the mindtrap.

He's saying that if intoxication is an established reason to render people incapable of giving consent for sex, it should be a reason to negate consent for anything.

However, there is a funny area here where we hold some people responsible for their actions while not holding others.

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whoaaaa tbr.

gettung behind the wheel of a lethal weapon and driving while intoxicated and driving that lethal weapon is wayyyyy different than being on a date (or not), having a drink or two, and *being* raped.

"incapable of consent" in rape cases applies equally to men.

it also applies to seniors and people who have diminished mental capacity.

the folks who said "yes" to testing in DWI or DUI cases did so erroneously thinking it would keep them from getting arrested. IIRC, if you refuse a breathalyzer--that can mean an automatic arrest/trip to the police station.

that's not an apples to apples comparison--and likely to make many see red.

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I think the difference here is that the woman wasn't charged with drinking and sexing.

While I understand your point, I would think that while being able to throw out the breathalyzer result, one finds it inescapable to conclude that the defendant was not intoxicated.

"You can't prove he's intoxicated because he's too intoxicated to consent to your analysis."

It's like saying someone is too stupid to be a moron, too tall to be a giant, too fat to be obese, etc.

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Well, if women are unable to consent to sex because they are intoxicated, and can bring rape charges against their "assailant" even if they consented while drunk, why shouldn't the court come down with this decision?

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@Sinbach: Too many fakes and picture collectors. Some people are all talk and no action so you do have better luck in a lot of cases on other sites. I had a guy hit me up this morning say he "saw me looking all good in the gym." He said we spoke to each other but I don't remember. He's cute too and in shape I might add.

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same conclusion: juries can be remarkably dumb.

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Well, it bears remembering sometimes that courts are supposed to make their judgments based upon the law and the evidence presented, not their gut. Sometimes the result is not what we like.

Juries are notoriously dumb, mostly because they make it too easy to exclude jurors. Often, people with jobs are left out because their service would be a "hardship". People with advanced degrees are excluded because they have "preconceived notions".

So after excluding smart people and employed people, you're left with dumb, retired or unemployed people. Mrs. VA was excluded from a jury over a lead poisoning case because she was a nurse married to a chemist and thus would make her own conclusions based on education rather than the court proceedings.

Of course this isn't always the way, but....

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