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"Oh no- not another pie discussion."

Party pooper.

p.s., Have I mentioned that I like pie?

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"Acupuncture is widely documented as effective in good studies"

Systematic reviews of high-quality rigorous studies do not support your conclusion.

"my mother, a physician, returned from China in the late 1970s with pictures of a woman undergoing surgery for removal of a large (think grapefruit size) abdominal tumor with no more anesthesia than acupuncture administered as sort of epidural."

I don't believe that for one second.

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lol NJNY.

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"There is some evidence that acupuncture can provide some short-term pain relief, although sham acupuncture (having an untrained individual just poke you wherever, or at non- acupuncture points) provides the same effect, but even then it's probably placebo."

Normally I'm with you on the health BS front (magnets, crystals, copper bracelets etc.) but I think you're way off base here. Acupuncture is widely documented as effective in good studies, as are the efficacy of the related TENS and MicroTENS (Transdermal Electro-Neural Stimulation) units. I haven't looked in quite a while but, last I did the prevailing explanation in Western science was called the "gating theory". The concept was that pain signals traveling along neural pathways were overwhelmed or phased out by induced electrical signals running counter current.

Acupuncture first caught my attention when my mother, a physician, returned from China in the late 1970s with pictures of a woman undergoing surgery for removal of a large (think grapefruit size) abdominal tumor with no more anesthesia than acupuncture administered as sort of epidural. It certainly seemed to be well in excess of what someone could expect from a placebo effect.

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when i wished my kiddo happy pi day this morning i got "do we have pie?"

no

"can we make a pie?"

no, sorry, don't have all the ingredients

"oh. then it's not really a happy pie day."

heh. smart kiddo.

Bridgewater NJ
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"Oh no- not another pie discussion."

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Well on Pi day, I can see the connection..... :-/

Emeryville CA
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No...sadly enough. No pecan pie here

Rutherford NJ
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Oh no- not another pie discussion.

Little Egg Harbor NJ
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Well it's my mom's pecan pie it definitely will have and ending. It just depends on what pie you care about.

Rutherford NJ
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From Yahoo answers:

"It's not a number, it's a relationship between the diameter and the circumference of a circle. Even though it can't be precisely, numerically expressed, it is observable and definable. Mathematics is more than just counting...."

The author also implies that it's our problem since we don't have digital brains.... fuck you Mr. Know It All, fuck you sir.

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