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Remember when people used to worry about the government keeping track of them? And now we are discussing whether we would rather go back to the old ways of gas station maps. We have somehow drifted into a situation where every aspect of our lives can now be recorded for commercial purposes and that information is considered a commodity. That is property, just not ours. The government of course has the right to access that information at any time, and can now, effectively, replay ur lives at will. In fact, as Snowden showed us, they don't even need to ask a judge.

When someone suggests we shouldn't worry about it I just shake my head. So we trust the government now? Intrinsically? Completely? We have no fear of government corruption? Of the rise of an authoritarian political party? Or the co-option of one of our stalwart old political parties by an authoritarian regime? We think our society is so sexually open, acceptant of kinks and gender roles, so racially and religiously harmonious tat we have nothing to fear about our interests/habits/movements/associations being exposed to the world either unintentionally or, much worse by design in a concerted effort to destroy us? If we don't think we're important enough to worry about, what about the people who seek to be our leaders? To set our policies? To protect or usurp whatever freedoms we have left?

Like this isn't the biggest issue of our times?

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Didn't think about that one....

Little Egg Harbor NJ
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Let's hope they are "Open Minded" as not to assume we associate with nutcal when we are talking in the same thread. They gotta be watching that guy.

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DickieLeaks.

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So true..... plus they know where the pie is too.

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So true..... plus they know where the pie is too.

Little Egg Harbor NJ
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Watched "Snowden" last night and now I'm sure the SLS forums are in the Heartbeat database. We might not know exactly who's fucking who but "they" do. ;-)

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Tbr - so correct. The latest fad seems to be this easy stupid Snapchat filters that map your face. Don't think that the technology hasn't been around for years and used to map everyone as they walk on public CCTV networks; Europe has been doing this for many years. Recently I had to get my passport renewed, mind you I am not an US citizen. Before I could get my passport I had to get a national ID card. To get this card, I literally underwent a full biometric treatment that included face mapping, plus fingerprinting, height and weight analysis plus a retinal scan. I felt a single the 'complete' box came up that all my data was being disbursed to every security agency in the EU. That somehow my face and specs were ok some screen like you see in spy movies. Here's in the US the national ID/drivers license never came to fruition because of privacy issues, so they moved on to the REAL ID as a way of giving standards. Yet 6 states still refuse to move to it and now those residents face extra hurdles if they want to fly all in the name of privacy.

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I don't know if any of us would want to go back to the old ways.

Would you want to go back to using gas station maps to find your way around?

All of those chips make it much more efficient to deliver stuff to you. I can order stuff from some far away place and track it right to my door.

You are tracked on video cameras many times per day. But those same video cameras were instrumental in finding the Boston Bombers, for example.

There are tradeoffs in everything. Some I like, some I don't.

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Watch the Netflix movie. "Living Off the grid" tracking chips are in everything from tires to cereal boxes and potato chip bags.

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