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Sorry, I wasn't able to complete my thought earlier. My wife wanted to go somewhere and that takes precedence. I agree that TEAMS from the SEC have done well over the past 5 years in NC games. SEC teams have won 9 of the 19 National Championships since the BCS formed and have been in the title run 11 times. Not a bad record for those teams 9-2. It just solidifies the point that it's the same three teams with two others thrown in. Florida 3 titles (1996, 2006, 2008) Alabama 2 titles (1992, 2009) LSU 2 titles (2003, 2007) and 1 each for Tennessee (1998) and Auburn (2010). Fun--You stated that Arkansas, S. Carolina and Georgia consistently put "very strong teams" on the field. I disagree with that. They have competitive teams. Arkansas very sporadic from early 2007 through 2009. Highest ranking in 2007 16 second week of season, go drubbed by Kentucky and fell out of the polls till 2010 (pre season #17). Ended season at #12. South Carolina spent 14 weeks in top 25 through 2006 to second week of 2010. They have been ranked since. As of now they have a fairly strong team, far from a consistently very strong team. Georgia is the only team that has been somewhat consistent, they've been ranked every year since 2006; however haven't been ranked since week 2 of 2010 when they lost to South Carolina 17-6. Tennessee hasn't been ranked since week 1 2008Kentucky last ranking was week 11 2007. Vanderbilt had a three week stretch in 2008 (weeks 5-7). They lost to Georgia 24-14 then lost to DUKE 10-7. Even Auburn was sporadic during the 2008-2009 seasons. They were #9 week three and dropped steadily when they fell out of the Top 25 week 8, regaining #17 in 2009 week six and unranked week 7. Mississippi ranked for most of 2009 for 7 weeks. Mississippi St unranked till week 8 2010. There are only three teams that show true positive consistency in the SEC. Let me ask you, if you take out those three teams and substitute them with three teams from any other conference, do a full swap. Is the SEC still the strongest Conference in your mind. Or does the conference that gets LSU, Alabama and Florida now the strongest?

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Allrightchinz, it's a whole 'nuther week annit looks like da Stillers'r gettin' a canna corn bein' dat de Indian-nipple-less Colts are dahhn a Manning. Witahht Peyton Manning da Colts aindoin' nuttin'. I hears Indian-nipple-less tried ta join da ACC, n'at! (Hey, I'm jaggin' yinz!)

So da Stiller'll dooder jobs anudder week anna hand da Colts a crushing defeat, furreal.

So sit dahhhn, haysome beers, anna watchas Indian-nipple-less gets laid ahht by our boys from da 'Burgh.

Ummina preDICKt dat:

Da Stillers- ferty-tree (43) Indian-nipple-less Colts- bupkis (0)

Jan, Shibby... yinzbuyin'at?

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Toledo and Syracuse.. Great game!

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Fun I got my info from Phil Steele's college football. I think he ws listing their SEC records, not overall records. My fault for not pointing that out.

It is also from the last THREE years not two. I'm not saying one is better then the other, I just found it interesting that their numbers are comparable. So many use stats here to prove their points, but once they don't agree they turn against stats. I also said that there are three teams that dominate the SEC with a couple of teams thrown in here and there, Auburn being that team last year and this year S. Carolina and Arkansas. Auburn down this year, not as good as their record shows. Georgia down, Tennessee not the powerhouse it once was. Kentucky, not a problem, Mississippi St. obviously not a problem for the top 3 aforementioned teams and Mississippi and Vanderbilt, enough said. The three teams don't play each other week in and week out. And the others just because it says SEC dosen't mean it's always a tough game. Besides all conference teams play each other and they are ALL tough games when they are on the field.

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Bob Stoops is a local guy, along with his brother Mike (Arizona), Bo Pellini (Nebraska) and of course, the now infamous Jim Tressel. The Stoops and Pellinis went to the same HS. Ohio in general and Youngstown in particular has been a hot bed for college coaches. I believe the stat I saw recently was that 15% of all NCAA head coaches are from Ohio. Les Miles, Gary Pinkel (Mizu) and former Gator coach Urban Meyer are Buckeye natives.

And yes, I am talking about coaches because my Buckeyes are a non-factor on the field this year.

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I agree about the Sooners. This year might be able to go all the way.

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Not so sure I can agree with ATown, and also can't figure out where a lot of your records come from. (e.g., you show Auburn with a 13-11 record over the last two years; they were 14-0 last year and 8-5 the year before, or 22-5 total; you have similar errors for other teams).

If you take out those three teams you mentioned, they account for a total of five national championships won by SEC teams during the last decade. But that still leaves Auburn, which won the NC last year. (Auburn also won the SEC championship and went 14-0 in 2004, yet was shut out of the NC game.) Tennessee has been down recently but won the BCS NC in 1998. Other teams such as Arkansas, Georgia and South Carolina field very strong teams consistently, and the only reason their records aren't better is because they have to play the Floridas, LSUs, and Alabamas every week. Ohio State is the strongest program in the Big 10, and until last year when they edged out Arkansas by 5 points in the Sugar, OSU was 0-eternity against the SEC in bowls.

To get an idea of how strong the conference is top to bottom, just look at the two worst programs in the SEC West: Miss. State and Ole Miss. Last year MSU absolutely pummeled Michigan. Ole Miss, a terrible program by SEC standards, beat a ranked Oklahoma St. team in the Cotton Bowl two years ago, and a ranked Texas Tech team there the year before that.

Nic has a good point about overall history, but at present there simply is no other conference that even touches the strength of the SEC.

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Nice analysis Atown...the argument for the SEC faithful is their recent domination in BCS bowl games, including national championships. Emphasis on RECENT. Your stats show the overall strength of the conferences are pretty comparable but until A Big Ten school wins another title, I have a feeling they won't be swayed.

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good comparison A-Town. Big 10 is down a little this year I think, with what happened at OSU and with the PSU program in general decline the last several years. Nebraska and Wisconsin are tough, drops off after that. SEC is a little better this year I believe. Amazing to watch the scuffle that has been going on with teams attempting to change conferences lately, probably going to look very different a couple years from now.

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Will have to pop in and out of the forums to see what's going on in college ball as my TV will have Dora, Sponge Bob, or a Disney movie playing until tomorrow evening, after the granddaughter go to bed and the Stillers are on, but that game may not be worth watchin as Peyton is still out. If the Browns can beat them (the Colts), don't see much of a game with da burgh boys. Curious to see if Pitt can overcome the fighting Irish.

Jan

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