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Atown, I'm sure the NCAA action you described was frustrating and disappointing.

I think their worst decision was when they outlawed athletic dorms. Some colleges had built Taj Mahals for their football teams to live in, and the NCAA decided that it was an unfair recruiting advantage over schools that didn't have them. So instead of some reasonable restriction (e.g., saying that athletic dorms couldn't be any nicer than the average on campus), they just outlawed them.

So, players get scattered all over town, in apartments or dorms where the coaches can't keep an eye on them, enforce curfew and study hour, etc. And every week we read about a player getting into trouble somewhere he shouldn't have been.

The NCAA, like so many other organizations that make rules, often fails to look one step down the road, until the law of unintended consequences bites it in the ass.

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Exactly my point. Whether we think it is fair or not, intellectual property as well as athletic prowess benefits the institution, not the individual. Once they have earned their degree, the student is free to go about the business of earning a living while the University is still in the business of staying afloat. And yes, profitable!

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Nic, you are right, companies profited from their employees everyday. Why my devilish good looks and charm at the front door has probably reaped millions for WalMart...

Seriously though, if a professor or student invents something at a company or school, they are generally not the ones that profit...its the school or company. I see the NCAA and athletes no differently.

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BTW, add me to the list of people who think the NCAA is a joke and horrible at administering fair and equitable punishments or even making a reasonable attempt at enforcing the rules uniformly (kinda sounds like SLS, no?)

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headin out to plaay some Call of Duty Fun??

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"And schools should not be allowed to profit off the names of athletes that perform on the field/court. "

And may I ask, why not?

Doesn't your workplace profit from the tasks you perform? Of course, you will answer that you are compensated for your efforts, but so are the scholarship athletes.

And what recourse do you have if you feel you are under-compensated? Find another job or line of work. So can the student athlete. No one is MAKING them play, they get OFFERED a scholarship.

One more bit of food for thought. How about a student research assistant in a lab at a medical school? If the research brings in a $2M grant, should the students get a share of that too?

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The NCAA as a governing body is ridiculous. Look at the issues with Reggie Bush and Cam Newton. You can't tell me it took that long to find out what Bush did or didn't do, he is long gone. But yet the current players are the ones punished, how is that fair? Reggie Bush and Pete Caroll pay no price for alleged violations, but the current players do. Same with Cam Newton, I would bet a good sum of money we will see the same thing happen with him a few years down the road...And what if Miami gets the death blow like SMU? Should the current players and new coach suffer for past players sins? P.S. I hope Al Golden has an out clause in his contract if Miami gets sanctioned, I want him at PSU!

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ATown, about to go out, but a quick response. Don't get me started on the NCAA. It has made more boneheaded decisions than I can count. A lot of their decisions hurt the athletes they say they are trying to protect. But, they do make the rules. Thanks for your comments. Will respond more tomorrow.

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ps to Wayne. After he or his proxy come crying to you, if you want to suspend me for that last comment, fine. Is there any way to make it retroactive so I didn't have to suffer through all that midget YouTube shit that has taken over the forums the last day or two?

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Fun--Here is something you can think about, how the NCAA has problems making the right decisions.

I am a high school basketball coach and have an AAU squad. Dealing with college coaches is something I do and have met a couple of D-1 coaches. The majority of coaches I interact with are D-2 and 3. Very few players reach the upper tier in college sports. The high school is not the issue I have, my issue with the NCAA revolves around a decision they made this year regarding AAU tournaments and D-1 campus'.

This summer we had a tournament scheduled in the carrier dome in Syracuse. It's a large tournament for the northeast with teams as far south as Florida to as far west Indiana with teams from Canada. About a month before the tournament the NCAA ruled that D-1 campus' cannot host AAU tournaments for the men teams 7U and up, because it gave the university and coaching staff an unfair advantage in recruiting. Really? The tournament was then placed in SUNY schools and high schools in and around Syracuse. Keep in mind that the women's, teams were allowed to play in the carrier dome. Isn't that a double standard? Wouldn't the womens coach have an unfair advantage to recruiting? Plus the tournament was still held in the area and Jim Boehiem was in attendance at a couple of the games. I will concede that maybe 10u and up should not be allowed to play. But 7u-9u, come on man! Maybe 5-10 percent of the players have a true shot at playing D-1. Boeheim still has the opportunity to recruit those that he speaks to, and believe me he was speaking to a couple of players. The NCAA dropped the ball on this one. This could be the only time teams would have this opportunity to experience something like that. The NCAA needs to look at the bigger picture for the youth, not closing the door to potential students.

The NCAA makes the rules, you're right about that. But sometimes the rules they create make little to no sense. Trying to find equal harmony is not a priority in their book. The priority they have now is to make money and control everything. They put blinders on some things and wide eyed about others. I doubt the stories that came forward about Cam Newton were false, and I doubt very seriously that Cam had no idea what his father was doing. It was easier for them to turn a blind eye, especially after the Reggie Bush, USC scandal that they dragged their feet on.

The NCAA offers a chance for many and limits the opportunities for the majority. Not everything they do is wrong or bad, but the judgement they use is lacking. I work closely with them, but guarded when I do.

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