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I don't think the objection is showing the ID more than it is getting the ID in the first place.

Most people just go down to the DMV and have no problem. But without a car and/or the original documents needed, this can be a challenge.

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I've never heard of anyone describe showing an ID as complex or convoluted. I've heard them describe it as racist, unfair, whatever. But not complicated. Any more than having to show ID when you buy beer.

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Ok Scamp,

Deleted it out of consideration for you, which I hope you appreciate. It seemed like a fair question to me and generally non partisan. Vote by mail has been a non issue here in Washington, like legalized gay marriage and pot. Still some people would rather politicize those things too.

I didn't know I had to check with the euphemism police before using the word Byzantine. I don't see most people using it to refer to things actually similar to the Eastern Roman empire, though that's the technical definition in Webster. The second and more common is "2) (of a system or situation) excessively complicated, typically involving a great deal of administrative detail."

I think any governmental system designed to prevent a problem that is, statistically speaking, nonexistent, by making people jump through a lot of hoops fits the second definition of Byzantine pretty well. Wyden's solution struck me as so common sense as to be - watch out guys another big word here - "elegant". Dammit! Sorry. I should have gone with "more good".

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"Byzantine" used to mean "comparable to the complexities and odd structure of the Byzantine Empire", but has become a synonym for "bad" by people wishing to use a fancier word.

Possibly second only to the word "fascist" on the list of most abused words.

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"Obviously some state legislators love to play games and disenfranchise voters they perceive as hostile to their interests with byzantine voter ID laws"

Voter ID laws are all satisfied by showing a valid drivers license or state issued ID.

You should read a book about the Byzantine Empire before you ever use that word again.

Hilliard OH
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JW why some insist on posting political themed crap in the open forum.

~S~

New Orleans LA
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darn HFT.. I was booking the "Red Room" at Eyz Wide Shut... now you tell me its a Rubber Room.... I learn something new everyday.

Brandon FL
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A: customer service responded today--and the mysterious disappearimg approval box--reappeared.

holy moley there's a TON of new profiles--must be spring fever

Bridgewater NJ
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For those of you that don't know what a RUBBER ROOM is in New York City school system. It's a place for where suspended teachers go when they have a problem with a student. The teacher reports there every day and hangs out until their case is heard. When it gets close to a hearing the teacher will change Lawyers, that starts their case over and they hang around. One teacher a Lawyer, hung around for 7 years collecting his $101,000.00 salary and running is $7 million real estate investment business. Some teachers retire from the RUBBER ROOM and collect all benefits. Liberalism at its best, again.

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"JW: where did the pic approval thingiemabobber on the home page go? "

I just approved 4 pix.

JW: You miss it? :-)

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