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Cannibal cop found guilty on all counts!

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This is troubling as it is thought crime. I don't like thought crime. It is evil.

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-I agree with the verdict on using the police database, but conspiring? my gosh...what's next?

"and showing up on the block of one woman after agreeing to kidnap her for $5,000."

At the very least, they could make a strong case for stalking. Combined with his abuse of power by accessing the police database, conspiracy isn't much of a stretch. Motive, opportunity and means.

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I've noted before that I'm sure I'm already on a list of people flagged by the FBI as "someone to have a chat with" should something explode around me.

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better watch out VA. they will be coming after you next.

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Minority report!

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I'm quite surprised. I know how to do all kinds of awful things with chemicals, and have even drawn reaction schemes out for how to do them. Does that mean I'm guilty of conspiracy to commit murder? A question on a chemistry exam of mine was to detail a suggested synthesis of sarin, and another was to calculate the correct amount of diesel fuel to add to the ammonium nitrate charge for the Oklahoma City bomb.

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I agree with the verdict on using the police database, but conspiring? my gosh...what's next?

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"It's wrong! it's absolutely wrong. Where is the American Civil Liberties? he was found guilty for fantasizing, for thinking!!!!!!"

Agreed. It's one thing to do web searches on how to build a bomb. It's another if you go to Home Depot and Radio Shack to buy all the ingredients.

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Article 105 - NY Penal Law CONSPIRACY

S 105.20 Conspiracy; pleading and proof; necessity of overt act.

A person shall not be convicted of conspiracy unless an overt act is alleged and proved to have been committed by one of the conspirators in furtherance of the conspiracy.

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AP: The Manhattan jury reached the verdict in federal court at the kidnapping conspiracy trial of Officer Gilberto Valle, a 28-year-old father with an admitted fetish for talking on the Internet about cannibalism.

Valle's lawyers, at what the tabloids dubbed the "Cannibal Cop" trial, chose not to hide what they called his "weird proclivities." But they insisted that he was just fantasizing and noted that none of the women were ever harmed.

Valle bowed his head and looked teary-eyed when the verdict was announced. He hugged his lawyer, Julia Gatto, who said later that she and Valle had been crying.

"It's a devastating verdict for us. We poured our hearts and souls into this," Gatto said of a defense team that all dropped their heads when the verdict was announced.

"The jury was unable to get past the thoughts," Gatto said. "Obviously, the case involved thoughts that were unusual and bizarre and frankly very ugly."

She called it a "dangerous prosecution when we start opening our minds and prosecuting what's in our brains and not what's in the real world."

U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara said in a statement: "Today, a unanimous jury found that Gilberto Valle's detailed and specific plans to abduct women for the purpose of committing grotesque crimes were very real, and that he was guilty as charged. The Internet is a forum for the free exchange of ideas, but it does not confer immunity for plotting crimes and taking steps to carry out those crimes."

Valle's mother, Elizabeth, shook her head as the verdict was rendered.

"I'm in shock and want to be left alone," she said after her son was led away. She said to herself as she sat on a court bench alone: "This is going to kill my mother."

Valle faces up to life in prison when he is sentenced on June 19. With the conviction, he loses his job as a police officer.

The defense team said it would ask the judge to set aside the verdict. Defense attorney Robert Baum said the verdict set a "dangerous precedent."

"People can be prosecuted for their thoughts and convicted," he said.

Prosecutors countered that an analysis of Valle's computer found he was taking concrete steps to abduct his wife and at least five other women he knew. They said he looked up potential targets on a restricted law enforcement database, searched the Internet for how to knock someone out with chloroform, and showed up on the block of one woman after agreeing to kidnap her for $5,000 for a New Jersey man, now awaiting trial.

Valle "left the world of fantasy and entered the world of reality," prosecutor Hadassa Waxman said during closing arguments. She said the officer's arrest near Halloween last year interrupted a ghoulish plan to "kidnap, torture, rape and commit other horrific acts on young women."

Waxman declined to comment after the verdict, referring questions to the prosecutor's press office.

The jury, which deliberated for just over two days, heard Valle's potential victims testify that they were trading innocent-sounding emails and texts with him, unaware he was supposedly scheming to make meals out of them. The government also sought to drive home the point that Valle was more of a threat because he was a police officer.

The trial opened a window on a strange online underworld where people share sick and twisted fantasies of torture, murder, dismemberment and cannibalism.

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