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Degas and Picasso, even Orpen painted women to be slender? By today's standards? You are aware google has images, right?

Swing and a miss.

Nice try though.

And I am not saying that because *A* specific artist depicts them that way, it is evidence. I am saying that because *many* have.

How about the exaggerated birth canal being a sign of strength and the ability to produce healthy offspring, therefore increasing the chance a male will choose the woman as a mate? There's pretty solid science behind that one too if you care to try and refute it.

Look, you guys have your preference, but you cannot rewrite history when it suits you. You are conveniently ignoring how overweight men can be depicted as attractive, where I have given several examples of how women are seen that way.

For the sake of argument, lets even say the depiction of women is a tossup. (It isn't.)

Men still come out on the short end of the stick. Another pun for you.

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Your claim is that because Rubens painted fat women, men prefer women with child bearing hips and a flabby gut? Would that mean that if I claimed that because Picasso, Iglasias, Orpen, Degas and many many others painted slender women, that men prefer them that way? How ludicrous. Attractiveness or desire is not based on what you see in sculptures and paintings. Each case is subjective, we all find different body types and personalities attractive. As an example, my husband is not aroused by women with child bearing hips, nor large behinds, flab turns him off. He prefers women on the smaller side, small butts, flat abs, slender hips.

Arguing on whom society finds more attractive is silly at best.

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Well, Sweet, the history of the human race is on my side on this one.

Lets compare media (art, music, stories) of overweight men who inspire lust vs. those of overweight women that do the same. You can argue your point all you want, but the math doesn't lie. You have an opinion. I have evidence.

Women with an exaggerated birth canal (i.e. bigger hips and ass) are considered erotic in many different cultures. Study sculpture much? Now look at the men in sculpture. Show me one culture that glorifies a beer gut on a man over the chiseled "David" look.

And no, Buddhism doesn't count. (since that statue you're thinking of isn't Buddha)

So your claim that overweight women being just as "ugly" as overweight men just doesn't hold water, pun intended.

Even using your own argument that men are willing to overlook weight adds credence to my point. If the women were so unattractive, men wouldn't be fucking them. They *are* finding them attractive enough to have sex with.

The only thing you can really argue here is that women are more discerning in their sex partners. Welcome once again to human history.

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I agree with you Sweet, 100%

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sweettart - You can only speak for yourself - certainly not for "most men." If that (sticking your dick into almost anything) is true for you, then I can't stop you.

The truth of the matter is that there are just as many overweight women in the LS as there are overweight men, on average. Since women are fewer in number in the LS and therefore in greater demand, their weight is overlooked more often.

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S4T - have no idea how ANYONE can even walk in 6" heels, much less dance the night away. Hope they get rest & TLC today.

Thanks for asking. Yesterday I increased the weight on the snatch from 35 to 42 lbs and was all good during the workout, on my clean from 65 to 75 lbs without any pain. This morning my hip flexor did hurt when I rolled over onto my stomach (putting it in full extension). Need more fish oil and remember to ice after the workout. -h

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Good morning fitness lovers!

I danced the night away, celebrated my dad's birthday, in 6" heels, hours of dancing and jumping makes my knee an angry girl ;).

Re: Yoga, we both know the advantages of it, my hubby understands the importance of flexibility, yet is set in his old ways :). Despite the fact that his wife is a PT and is constantly stressing this issue, he's just set in his ways. It's okay though, he's very fit, works out daily and watches what he eats. It can be worse, right?

H, how is your back?

Mr.Fundamental, how is your shoulder?

B's shoulder is pretty bad. He increased his weights last week, by a whopping 25% in one day, and got hurt as a result.

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Like sed's hubby, I'm more muscular, less flexible and less balanced. Yoga is hard. On the other hand, a wise trainer will work on just those areas of balance and flexibility while I work on strength and stamina.

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It's the flexibility issue (or lack of) by many of the males of the species. Especially those who have been involved with weight lifting. Yoga will help with flexibility. Don't worry about the "fluidity" of the workout - think more of just breathing and then getting towards the positions. That's why I'm doing yoga - increased flexibility helps in my workouts and decreases injuries. Not to mention some lifestyle positions LOL! -h

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Mercy,

It's not a homophobic issue, my husband is anything but that. He's more of a body builder than anything else, Yoga is just awkward for him. For the same reason that tai chi is ;). He's perfectly comfortable with his Kung Fu training, yet Tai Chi is a challenge for him, clearly for the same reason as Yoga. The fluidity of it all I guess. He's a big dude who's been working out since the age of 14, in a stereotypical man's gym...;)

Even as a Personal Trainer, I can't instill the importance of flexibility in him.

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