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TOPIC: Weight loss plateau

Created by: sardukar Original Starting post for this thread:
My wife and I decided to get feet wet in the life style about 1 1/5 ago and I figure before doing anything lets get in shape first..so I hit the gym hard and start doing cardio and lifting heavy..the result: went from size 38 to size 34 and from 210lb to 175lb..and this is where I stopped no matter what I do it wont budge. I lowered my cal. intake to less than 1500/day, increased the cardio to 45min/day plus 30min of lifting..still no go..In general the fat melted everywhere but around the bellybutton. I look ridiculous with a 4 pack and fat pad. :-) Ideas ? PS the cardio is either elliptical for 45 min or running for 3 miles or HIIT /Tabata for 25min the heart rate goes up to 180b/min to no more 200.

Created by: sardukar
Original Starting post for this thread:

My wife and I decided to get feet wet in the life style about 1 1/5 ago and I figure before doing anything lets get in shape first..so I hit the gym hard and start doing cardio and lifting heavy..the result: went from size 38 to size 34 and from 210lb to 175lb..and this is where I stopped no matter what I do it wont budge. I lowered my cal. intake to less than 1500/day, increased the cardio to 45min/day plus 30min of lifting..still no go..In general the fat melted everywhere but around the bellybutton. I look ridiculous with a 4 pack and fat pad. :-)
Ideas ?

PS 
the cardio is either elliptical for 45 min or running for 3 miles or HIIT /Tabata for 25min the heart rate goes up to 180b/min to no more 200.

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User Details are only visible to members.	Cookies?!?!??? Where??? LOL I'm guilty of weighing and measuring my food and counting and logging, etc. But I find that I need the regimentation because I have very little will-power on my own. I know, lame, but.......
Wailuku HI			Username hidden (441 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	"And the Dark side has cookies! LOL" hmmmm, cookies.... Actually, not lately. Even my cheat cake last night wasn't that tasty. Fresh watermelon & pineapple are so sweet to me now. On the other hand, that key lime pie from Morten's the other weekend? Wowza! (since starting this challenge almost 90 days ago I have a cheat dessert once a week).
Las Vegas NV			Username hidden (836 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	"Kind, don't get discouraged. Discouragement leads to anger, anger leads to the Dark side....And the Dark side has cookies! LOL" Lmao! I've never been a cookie person, I was hoping my dark side has pizza or chocolate cake. Thanks sweets. I have a guilty conscience about being obsessive compulsive, but it's been known to prevent 'giving up' here and there too, so I'm just trying to use it to my advantage.
Kunkletown PA			Username hidden (2981 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Who is him? ------------------------- The father of the owner of our box. He was a ZONE supporter. SVC was discussing the Zone diet. Him is actually a really smart cookie, I'm just looking for other input. Kind, don't get discouraged. Discouragement leads to anger, anger leads to the Dark side....And the Dark side has cookies! LOL
Amherst OH			Username hidden (2271 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	"Thanks so much for your insight and time to write such a fair assessment. I do sense a little OCD with him, but mostly in a good way." ---- who is 'him'?
Kunkletown PA			Username hidden (2981 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	So, IMHO, balanced meals / snacks = good. Be aware of portions = good. OCD with "blocks" and scales, and 40-30-30 = ?. LOL! ----------------------------------- Thanks so much for your insight and time to write such a fair assessment. I do sense a little OCD with him, but mostly in a good way. I can't see myself weighing everything....I don't even weigh myself! LOL
Amherst OH			Username hidden (2271 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Mrs Svc, do you think I'm trying too hard? (=bad)lol I'm a few seconds away from not tracking my food this week, just eating healthy balanced portion meals and snacks, and at the right times ... and seeing how that may work for me. I feel like it would be a mistake, or just my ocd talking... lol. ...I guess I'd find that out soon enough.
Kunkletown PA			Username hidden (2981 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Zone Diet: Low calorie for obcessive compulsive people. The good: protein with every meal/snack = increased sense of satisfaction/fullness. Controlled carbs + fat + protein at every meal/snack = slower to rise blood sugars & then slower to lower (no crashing). Still meets the classic definition for "low fat" (30% or less of total calories from fat). The bad: if you really calculated it out per the book, it's really low calorie (mine was only 900 a day!!!). In the end he wrote that if you are an athlete or need more calories, then add fats. However, wouldn't that change his "magic ratio" that is suppose to be so wonderful? There was never any good science behind the 40-30-30 but we do know that any time you remove non-nutritional sugars/processed starches, increase vegetables/lean proteins, healthy fats, everyone feels better (duh???); he just packaged it up in a nice gimmick (like many other diet books). The ugly: his claim to be "nominated for a Nobel Prize" was never substantiated - and it had nothing to do with the diet in the first place (he was an organic chemist). Later changed to "based on Nobel prize winning research .....". The "science" he claimed, the success he claimed with the swim team, was bogus - he gave them a lecture and then they won a championship, so he said it was his diet - but they didn't follow his diet. He never did any controlled studies. However, later other research was done. With a 1500 calorie version (still 40-30-30) there was measureable increased sense of satisfaction, less hunger, and "slightly" more weight loss compared to a 1500 calories traditional "low fat" diet (55-20-25). And subsequent use of slightly higher protein/lower carbohydrate diets have gained a lot of popularity. So, IMHO, balanced meals / snacks = good. Be aware of portions = good. OCD with "blocks" and scales, and 40-30-30 = ?. LOL! mrs svc, RD
Las Vegas NV			Username hidden (836 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	When there is a plateau sometimes you have to take a couple days to eat MORE. That doesn't mean eating more junk, but just more of your healthy stuff. When there is a plateau sometimes you have to take a day of rest from your usual routine. Allow your body to recover, repair, rebuild. When there is a plateau sometimes you have to mix up the routine, do something different, do something at a different time of the day, split your routine. Re-evaluate your exercise program, too much cardio? Not enough strength training? mrs svc
Las Vegas NV			Username hidden (836 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	I think there is no need for dieting the bottom line is : 1. eat less 2. exercise more --- I do know people that that works for. But I eat way less, exercise way more, ...and it is not enough for my body to change anything. I wish it would have been that simple.
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