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TOPIC: Vegetarians and working out
Created by: 2sleepyheads
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Out of pure curiosity.. How many on here are vegetarians? I like to say I'm a part time vegetarian. meaning I will still eat meat, but my main diet is veggies. I am lucky it is a lot easier having accessible while at work.

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Just like there is no one size fits all diet, there are a few givens. A plant based diet coupled with moderate complex carbs and fats seems to be a better template rather than high fat animal protein and we won't even begin the conversation on processed foods which is just a huge problem in our society.

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vegans & vegetarians come in all shapes & sizes, just as do the rest of the general population. it's just as easy to make good and/or bad choices on a vegetarian or vegan diet as it is when an omnivore or other diet / lifestyle choice.

that being said, my diet has ranged the gamut (from full on mostly carbs and less than stellar choices) to "strict," to (currently) a healthy mixture and allowing for most things in moderation. at 49, i have lost and maintained a loss of over 40 lbs for over a year, and my blood sugar levels are at their healthiest since ever i can remember. most of that has to do with not only the food choices, but also with ensuring a healthy amount of physical activity on a regular basis, meditating and working at mindfulness,and shedding a good deal of toxic stress from my life.

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i think as everyone has noted, it's not necessarily about the type of diet (veg, non veg) but more about healthy choices versus less healthy choices.

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It is very possible to be a fat vegetarian. I've visited vegetarian restaurants and their fare is loaded with carbs. I am carb sensitive coupled with being diabetic so the only complex carb I eat is the sweet potato...1/2 in the am and the balance at lunch. I do eat eggs and fish. My dairy is little to none of late per my doctor. Your lady has the beginnings of a great back and she appears to be quite lean. I am leaning strongly towards being vegan and for me, a person who would kill for a rib eye, this is huge. Since cleaning up my act, I am still able to train wiith the same intensity and am looking a lot leaner which is on plan.

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The attached picture is of my girlfriend that is a vegetarian these days. Seem to be working for her but then she does drink 100 grams of whey protien isolate a day most of the time.

I only wish I could eat as clean as she does.

One thing I have learned is that vegetarians that don't eat meat for ethical reasons can be perfectly happy eating all the pasta and sugar, and plant oil they want. As a result, it is possible to a fat vegetarian.

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From a physician...

This is an interesting thread. People are speaking past one another.

Disclosure. We're omnivores. We'll do vegetarian meals. Sushi. Fritattas. And yes, once in a blue moon we'll get into the 'gotta have a steak' mood.

Strict vegetarians--plant food only--will have trouble getting sufficient protein. Even the addition of soy, beans and so on will make make for rate limitations in protein synthesis. The ovo-lacto folks are in much better shape because they are getting protein from animal sources that is a richer mix.

Most people require at least 1 gram of protein/kg body weight each day. The fitness folks are going to require more, and that is going to be really hard to do without some supplementation beyond plant sources.

There's little rationale for attacking people for balanced food choices. We've evolved that way. The plant eaters run into less problems with overweight, vascular disease and maybe some form of cancer. But they may not be as robust and resilient to certain illnesses and traumas. Food choices constitute a form of risk-management. They also constitute a form of pleasure. Both can be accomodated.

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Actually I speak as a Fitness industry, nationally certified trainer.

* Vegan for many years who won a female body building contest. Sooo... *

Anecdotal evidence are just that, anecdotal. And while you're entitled to your opinion, you're not entitled to your facts. Having said that, I wont argue with you. Plant based foods are not complete protein, it's a fact. That translates to the fact that they do not contain all the essential amino acids [we refer to them as essential for a reason]. When meat is consumed the digestive system breaks it down into amino acids. Which then gets absorbed into the blood stream, amino acids form the proteins which make up the human muscles and organs. The Amino Acids that are considered *essential* are the ones that humans are unable to produce, ex: Tryptophan, Valine, Lysine etc...Animal protein have ALL of the essentials that humans need. Cereal and grain on the other hand do not, in fact, Lysine is literally non existent in them. I guess you can rely on legumes, peas and peanuts for Lysine, but they sadly lack in tryptophan. Legumes peanuts and peas don't have cystine & methionine.

I trained a strict vegan about a year ago, he was 18 and a scrawny kid that was well over 6 feet. He worked hard, four hours a week with me, and 4 hours on his own. He couldn't put on muscle regardless of how hard he tried. After much struggling, he decided to add eggs to his diet. In less than 3 months, the kid put on 3lbs of muscle weight.

Anyway, my point is, that it's practically impossible to consume complete proteins when one is a strict vegetarian. Most that I've met tend to be stringy and unhealthy in appearance, more often than not, pale and suffer from Halitosis. Who knows, maybe you're an exception.

FYI, people over 60 years old, should be very very vigilante about taking enough lysine on daily basis.

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You really cannot get complete protein from consuming veggies only. Muscle growth is heavily reliant on protein.

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Dear forum police Capt.Sed. I forgot a interesting part of my original post (sleeping pill & beer). I wanted to know if anyone that is a vegetarian or vegan, that works out. How well does it work with your fitness routine. Can you tell a difference in being a vegetarian? I have fallen of the wagon.

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Right, but this is a fitness forum, if you are a vegetarian, and work out, can you post about it? what is your workout routine? how many calories do you consume?

Based on your photos, you're not particularly muscular, so I'd guess that you don't do much resistance working out.

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I have never heard that. But I find your post interesting. How hard is it for you to find play partners?

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