Vegetarians and working out: Swingers Discussion 213778

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TOPIC: Vegetarians and working out

Created by: 2sleepyheads Original Starting post for this thread:
Out of pure curiosity.. How many on here are vegetarians? I like to say I'm a part time vegetarian. meaning I will still eat meat, but my main diet is veggies. I am lucky it is a lot easier having accessible while at work.

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User Details are only visible to members.	The attached picture is of my girlfriend that is a vegetarian these days. Seem to be working for her but then she does drink 100 grams of whey protien isolate a day most of the time. I only wish I could eat as clean as she does. One thing I have learned is that vegetarians that don't eat meat for ethical reasons can be perfectly happy eating all the pasta and sugar, and plant oil they want. As a result, it is possible to a fat vegetarian.
Owego NY			Username hidden (4 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	From a physician... This is an interesting thread. People are speaking past one another. Disclosure. We're omnivores. We'll do vegetarian meals. Sushi. Fritattas. And yes, once in a blue moon we'll get into the 'gotta have a steak' mood. Strict vegetarians--plant food only--will have trouble getting sufficient protein. Even the addition of soy, beans and so on will make make for rate limitations in protein synthesis. The ovo-lacto folks are in much better shape because they are getting protein from animal sources that is a richer mix. Most people require at least 1 gram of protein/kg body weight each day. The fitness folks are going to require more, and that is going to be really hard to do without some supplementation beyond plant sources. There's little rationale for attacking people for balanced food choices. We've evolved that way. The plant eaters run into less problems with overweight, vascular disease and maybe some form of cancer. But they may not be as robust and resilient to certain illnesses and traumas. Food choices constitute a form of risk-management. They also constitute a form of pleasure. Both can be accomodated.
Atlanta GA			Username hidden (382 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Having fussed back and forth with Seduction4Two, I would like to explain something: If Seduction4Two had asked a few questions this back and forth could have been avoided: #1: There is a difference between nutritionist and dietitian, a dietitian requires a college degree. A nutritionist does not. #2: It is possible with a vegetarian diet to get your complete protein and essential amino acids. The caveat, it requires due diligence and work. See a dietitian. #3: There are various vegetarian diets. Vegan and pure vegetarianism is extremely difficult to properly maintain your dietary requirements. Ovolactovegetarians include eggs and dairy products. This is the easiest and nutrition wise probably the safest. Again talk to a dietitian that has been trained in the vegetarian diets. My wife and I are ovolactovegetarians. We buy our eggs from a local organic farmer that raises free range chickens, duck, turkey etc. My wife eats yogurt, I'm mildly lactose intolerant (my fitness partners appreciate the fact that I refrain from eating or drinking dairy products) Once again: If you are thinking about going to a vegetarian diet consult a dietitian. You can F--k up! If Seduction4Two had asked what type of vegetarians we were we could have probably had a very informative thread running. Hope we still can... :)
Lugoff SC			Username hidden (6 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	As pushed by by the beef/swine and poultry industry. I won't agrue with you either... I get my facts from life experience and oh... let's see an several certified experts from the exercise industry/ a licensed and cerified dietian who receved her Dr. with a dissertation on vegetarian/vegans and physical fittness. We were also included in a study by the Berkerly Heart Lab. It's simple... YOU are wrong... end of aurgment... see how simple that was? bye now
Lugoff SC			Username hidden (6 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Actually I speak as a Fitness industry, nationally certified trainer. * Vegan for many years who won a female body building contest. Sooo... * Anecdotal evidence are just that, anecdotal. And while you're entitled to your opinion, you're not entitled to your facts. Having said that, I wont argue with you. Plant based foods are not complete protein, it's a fact. That translates to the fact that they do not contain all the essential amino acids [we refer to them as essential for a reason]. When meat is consumed the digestive system breaks it down into amino acids. Which then gets absorbed into the blood stream, amino acids form the proteins which make up the human muscles and organs. The Amino Acids that are considered essential are the ones that humans are unable to produce, ex: Tryptophan, Valine, Lysine etc...Animal protein have ALL of the essentials that humans need. Cereal and grain on the other hand do not, in fact, Lysine is literally non existent in them. I guess you can rely on legumes, peas and peanuts for Lysine, but they sadly lack in tryptophan. Legumes peanuts and peas don't have cystine & methionine. I trained a strict vegan about a year ago, he was 18 and a scrawny kid that was well over 6 feet. He worked hard, four hours a week with me, and 4 hours on his own. He couldn't put on muscle regardless of how hard he tried. After much struggling, he decided to add eggs to his diet. In less than 3 months, the kid put on 3lbs of muscle weight. Anyway, my point is, that it's practically impossible to consume complete proteins when one is a strict vegetarian. Most that I've met tend to be stringy and unhealthy in appearance, more often than not, pale and suffer from Halitosis. Who knows, maybe you're an exception. FYI, people over 60 years old, should be very very vigilante about taking enough lysine on daily basis.
Colts Neck NJ			Username hidden (12202 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Hate to tell you this... but... WRONG! Your answer is typical of meat eaters. We have been vegetarians for 37 years. Our protein intake surpasses most meat eaters. If you plan your diet correctly you can get a fully balanced protein intake from vegetables alone. It's not hard. IF you are going to be a hard core body builder then I would suggest an animal supplement. But... I do know one young lady that was a Vegan and has been a Vegan for many years who won a female body building contest. Sooo...
Lugoff SC			Username hidden (6 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	You really cannot get complete protein from consuming veggies only. Muscle growth is heavily reliant on protein.
Colts Neck NJ			Username hidden (12202 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Oops, Yes we work out. The female half spends 9 hours a week in the gym. The male half spends 6 hours a week. We also spend time each summer swimming and or diving. Male half is retired from USN/deep sea diver and was a vegetarian for most of his career. Being a vegetarian and exercising is no different than being a meat eater, know what you eat and pay attention to your diet. And YES you can get balanced proteins from veggies. As with any diet... moderation and common sense. Hoo Ya!
Lugoff SC			Username hidden (6 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Dear forum police Capt.Sed. I forgot a interesting part of my original post (sleeping pill & beer). I wanted to know if anyone that is a vegetarian or vegan, that works out. How well does it work with your fitness routine. Can you tell a difference in being a vegetarian? I have fallen of the wagon.
Haw River NC			Username hidden (189 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Right, but this is a fitness forum, if you are a vegetarian, and work out, can you post about it? what is your workout routine? how many calories do you consume? Based on your photos, you're not particularly muscular, so I'd guess that you don't do much resistance working out.
Colts Neck NJ			Username hidden (12202 post)

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