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FHTOTD: streaming music over the 'net. workouts are so much better with good tunes.

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FHTOTD: freeing the girls from squashed bondage. dang, note to self: no more dryer for the sports bras!

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"I was too scared to do that since I was gaining already."

When I up exercise I RARELY lose weight for the first few months. But I usually lose inches. Muscle takes up less room then fat on a pound per pound basis. So you can be losing fat, gaining muscle and that scale might not budge, or even go up. I lost 2 sizes before Jamaica with no weight loss. Currently I'm almost the same weight I was after having my 2nd child. Then I was a 14--16 now I'm a 10. Now that I'm healing the goal measurements/sizes are posted in my bathroom NOT the goal weight. I really do not care what the scale says if I'm back in my size 8's and eventually my 6's.

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Re: Biggest Loser. I'm an RD & have spoken personally with a few of the past contestants.

The girls are on 1200 calorie/day, men on 1500 calorie/day. High protein and relatively lowish carb.

They are using bodybuggs (or other metabolic measurement devices) and expected to "burn" 8000 calories/day.

Initial first week weight loss is lots of water; mobilization of glycogen stores and fluid when they do their first weigh-in after high sodium meal the night before that starting weight. Hence the history of the 2nd week curse.

Subsequent "weeks" are not always just 7 days.

High intensity interval training on the tv show, constant steady-state exercise on "off" hours (i.e. walk, jog, bike for hours).

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As for how extreme weight losses occur....

The human body can mobilize around 40 calories a day from its fat stores. This number can be increased somewhat, but not a lot, from exercise. 50 cal a day max, I believe. So any deficit beyond 50 cal a day per pound of body fat you're carrying results in muscle loss too. I'll take a wild stab and guess your body fat is about 30%, meaning you carry about 45 pounds of fat. This is your total body fat - not excess. Unless you became an extreme athlete or concentration camp survivor the most you would want to give up of that is maybe half.

This means you can achieve a max calorie deficit by exercising like crazy plus dieting of about 2,100 calories a day. A "Biggest Loser" contestant is much more overweight and thus can go much higher. Some muscle loss will happen too, and is somewhat inevitable, since obese people carry muscle needed to move their bulk around which they won't have a use for once they aren't so heavy.

Anyway - so they would eat around 1,000 calories a day and exercise the rest away. If you've got nothing to do but exercise all day you'd be amazed at how much you can do so.

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DD

Based on your stats I would estimate your base (ie no exercise) caloric demand would be about 1,350 a day. If you are exercising doing weight training you would expected to build (slowly) small amounts of muscle weight and, while eating around 1,600 a day, I would expect your weight loss rate to be glacially slow to virtually zero.

A weight loss of 4 pounds in 6 days is simply impossible via metabolism, exercise and dieting unless you ran 3 triathlons during this time. Rapid weight changes likes that are the result of water shifts and, frankly, changes in how much your bowel is retaining in weight.

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DD: congrats on starting a routine and regime that's working for you.

see my other post in recipes thread. i truly believe it's a lifelong process of figuring out what works for us in each time frame, adjusting tweaking and refining as needed. as far as the folks on biggest loser? most of them start out with MEGA weight they need to lose. and are put on scarey crazy regimes, monitored closely, and attended by nutritionists, personal trainers, and so on.

if i had the time and the resources at my disposal (likely anyone here in the fora, same goes!) that the folks on those shows had--we'd all be seeing crazy-good results in a relatively short time frame. i always try to keep in mind that i am working my fitness in around all the other obligations and commitments on my time. we need to be kind to ourselves because negative thoughts have a much bigger impact on us than we realize.

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So you think if you are gaining weight and exercising you should add calories to lose weight? I was too scared to do that since I was gaining already.

How in the hell do the people lose crazy weight on the Biggest Loser?

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DD: The trainer is right. People think by lowering calories they will lose more weight. I am sure you've learned by now that that is not the case and just the opposite happens. The body begins to resist and you don't lose an ounce. I say focus on inches, particularly in the waistline and don't be concerned about the scale. Here is what I ate today: I had coffee w/coffeemate (no equal, sugar or splenda); protein shake; I made broccoli so I made it like a soup; then I had some fish with mixed veggies I made yesterday and a half sweet potato. I did my yoga practice which included some ab work then worked legs and chest in the gym. I don't count calories but I do practice portion control and I take a good pro-biotic which is crucial.

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That's awesome Ms. DD!


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