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I've had husbands who specifically ASKED ME to kiss, massage, flirt, etc. with their wives. Both of them are not just okay with it, they requested it. If three consenting adults come to an agreement on something like this, it doesn't matter what others think.

Amazing that I have to defend romance when choking a woman or rape fantasies are considered perfectly acceptable. Those things may be fine for some people and I hope they have as much fun doing them as I do with my fantasies. Neither one particularly interest me, but I don't go out of my way to criticize those who do like them.

But really? I actually have to defend treating a lady with class?

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ok I swore I was staying out of this, but its like a accident on the freeway that you can't help but looking at.

There is a big difference in my book to being sensual/intimate (massage, kissing, flirting) and being romantic. I love for some of my SM's to be more sensual/intimate with me. Romance would throw up red flags.

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I never addressed NIN so I am not sure how I need to give her a break. lol

Of course I have played solo with married ladies, AFTER establishing the ground rules with her husband. I would never presume to "romance" someone else's wife unless that was their specific request. Remember guys, we are here to help couples live out THEIR fantasies and a SM who addresses only the female in a couple or assumes that level of intimacy without including the husband in the conversation first is an ass in my book. Natually I enjoy the benefits of their fantasies but it is up to the couple to set the parameters.

My point was the op sounded like he was writing his match dot come fantasy.

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"...can't speak first hand..." Not yet anyway! ;) Thanks Cum4me....I believe, as does my husband, that our marriage is stronger today than it has ever been. So many marriages end because of infidelity. That's not an issue with us!

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Nic,

Give Naughty the benefit of the doubt. While I can't speak first hand about her in particular, I strongly believe what she is saying is very true. Also, playing with a married woman with (but preferably without) her husband present has many wonderful advantages. How did that commercial go, "Try it, you'll like it".

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Nic, there's no mention of my husband because he won't be there. I play solo with sm with his knowledge of everything I do. Now, c'mon....are you telling me that you've never played with a married woman without her husband being present? My husband & I have been married for over 21 years. We are safe & secure in our marriage. He knows I love to have my fantasies come true. I'm just a very, very fortunate lady!!!

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I'll give you an example: massage

To me, a massage between two people (who are not paying someone to do it therapeutically) is a very sensual activity. I've had massages that made me melt like butter and given a few as well.

Another example: kissing

I love kissing a woman. Soft, slow, deep, passionate kissing. I know that there are couples (as well as single women) who have rules that explicitly prohibit this and I respect those rules when we play. Fortunately for me, I've met a lot more who enjoy this activity and it's fun for all of us.

Another example: flirting

Saying I like to flirt is like saying birds like to fly and fish like to swim. It's fun. I love to flirt with women and make them feel special. It's fun when they flirt with me.

Now I won't be buying them Christmas presents and sending them Valentine's Day cards, but there's no harm in adding a bit of sensuality to an experience.

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That's good to hear, Tim.

As for me, I do have some thoughts that are too special to waste on 'just anyone'...and may never even happen... but that's ok, they're still really sweet. That's the thing about fantasies: sometimes they're better as just that. Reality has a way of getting in the way sometimes, lol.

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I make sure that expectations are set up front. If I play with a woman who is part of a couple, I make sure I do it with full understanding and approval from the male half of the couple. He has absolutely nothing to worry about from me. If I'm playing with a single female, she knows that when we're done we both go our separate ways. With my non-stop travel schedule, I have no illusions of falling in love in the lifestyle.

It's just fun. I'm not trying to make it into anything that it's not.

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BTW, Tim, for what it's worth, it's a nice fantasy and all, I just think the other posters are trying to point out to you where it might be recipe for disaster under certain circumstances. Being new to all of this AND single, I simply thought it was a little over-the-top, but nice...until I began reading the feedback from both the married women and SM out there and I can see how their concerns would be quite legitimate.

My advice, sweetheart: save the all out romance for YOUR special girl one day...but in the meantime, there's no harm in being a gentleman, and some little romantic touches are nice. We ladies do appreciate that kind of thing, no doubt...and I'm sure the hubbies would appreciate the courtesy.

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