Not only is it a fantasy, it's a reality I've lived many times, and it just never gets old.

Also, I don't have firsthand experience, but I've been told that mega multiples (I usually call it the no pain gang bang) are easier to arrange at hotel takeovers.

Well, you asked so ill answer honestly. I have fantasized about and discussed the possibility & logistics of mega multiple partners... We have had marathon sex sessions...ones that last more than 24 hours and involve toys, oral, anal, and vaginal, and sometimes a helper. During the last marathon session i asked him to estimate the number of men that he thought I could have sex with in one day. His answer was 50, My answer is 125, the most I've had in one day was 12 (non contiguous) because, logistically, those things are hard to set up.

@PG and Mrs.U: I can see that. However, the gentlemen I make reference to had been dealing with this for years and, one in particular, was ready to divorce his wife. I feel you about the transient guys. You are quite right, as long as they leave the drama elsewhere, I would welcome them too, especially if the dick was "prime." LOL

While I was editing an earlier post, PG said it....

It's a way to introduce the new gf to the LS and hope that she will want to join in too. The other guys I mentioned are only active in the LS when they are not in a relationship. They use it to take care of NSA sexual needs. We don't care that people amongst our group are transient as long as they manage their drama.

Mrs. u

Because maybe although she doesn't want to swing at this time she is turned on by going to the club. Live porn. Lots of people are voyeurs and like the atmosphere of the club, but do not want to share their SO. And who knows the more she is around it maybe she will decide she wants to explore more.

@Shelly: I know you can't get into the local guys head but what sense does it make for him to take her to LS clubs and she doesn't want to do anything? I went to Fayetteville, NC, to this place call YKW, I think, and met a couple as I went alone to check it out since a bunch of people raved about how great it was. Of course, the night I went it was dead. Anyway, I sat with a couple and was just making small talk, The husband was absolutely miserable. The wife wanted nothing to do with the LS and even though she agreed to accompany him to the club they did nothing. What sense does that make. Another case. I met a sweet guy who came all the fuck the way from GA to see me. At the outset, I didn't know he was married. Another one where the wife supposedly would go to LS events and do nothing. It's nuts. Personally, I'd rather be single than deal with that BS.

@BLT We really don't have to conform to anyone's expectations, other than our own. It's the individual's personal choice when/if they are attracted to a vanilla type on how to act. If it's merely a casual hook-up with a vanilla, I'd leave my personal business out of it, practice safe sex and keep on moving.

In the case of something more, I advocate an open/candid discussion(s) with the other person about views on kinky sex, multiple partners or whatever else. Communication is key, but some people simply can't understand or accept anything outside of how they define normal. Relationships almost always require compromise on someone's part and whoever is making the larger compromise has to judge for themselves if their new partner is worth the sacrifice and/effort. Sometimes we just don't get our cake and get to eat it too.

Oh, about the local dudes-- I never asked if they tried to convert their gf's, one guy did tell me that his new gf and him go to the swing club and she's ok hanging out with swingers but that's it.

Shelly

@Mrs U: My question is this. When we hook up with folks outside the LS, why is it that "we" have to conform to their way? If we truly want to live this way of life, why not, I don't know if this particular guys tried, bring them over to "our" side.

Dear Mrs U, hail to the Queen! That is a sad note as time does bring changes. Some good and some bad but the river of desire flows on does it not. Your counsel has meant the world to us and we have no doubt where there is desire there is a way. That being said we have found a small group in the area of Gulf Shores AL that we are gonna be visiting with in the next week or two. We will let you know how it goes. Maybe that might be something to consider. Thanks S!