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DandJ

I am with you. I just posted to another topic saying somewhat the same thing. America hit rock bottom and now you have a team of people trying to revive the country. I know that no one wants to be taking care of anyone else but you gotta think...If you are a business owner and dont have any customers that can buy your product...then arent you still f*cked!

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Olgeezer had difficulty with his facts. This is Bush's deficit. Eight years of his shit has created the current crisis. Republican deregulation created the financial crisis. The people didn't elect McCain because they realized Republicans got us into this mess and they weren't going to watch them shovel us deeper.

Check your history. Republicans administrations in the last fifty years out deficit Democratic ones two to one. Dems increase revenue through business smarts over Republicans by a similar margin. Republicans are the party of recession, Dems the party that cleans up the Republican messes.

Clinton was the one who badgered both Dems and Republicans to balance the budget. The last balanced budget in our lifetimes was Eisenhower. Kennedy had a near zero deficit one year. It took Clinton to knock down the Regan and first Bush's deficits and get near a balanced budget. Bush knocked that all to hell as soon as he got in office.

It will take all of Obama's administration to put a dent into the mess Bush left us. Let's hope the people are smart enough to give him the same amount of time to fix it as Bush had to destroy it.

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"I said the deficit will be doubled NOT the national debt. Big difference."

You did not. Look at your own post.

"You are also ignoring the fact that it's the Congress that spends the money, not the President."

True enough...

"With the exception of a few years of a Republican majority Congress in the mid 90's (who, by the way, forced Clinton to balance the budget) it has been the liberal Democrats who controlled the purse strings for the past 60 years."

You seem to be forgetting the first 6 years of the last Bush administration, when over 3 trillion was added.

In the past 6 months our government has spent more money than has been spent since this country was founded.

This statement is pure, unadulterated bullshit. We have spent about $20 trillion just since 2000. And we have spent, what $2 trillion in the past six months?

"Socialism has never worked anywhere in the world where it has been implemented."

Let's see what you say when you start collecting Social Security in six years.

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The kool-aid is strong with this one, Obi-Wan...

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I said the deficit will be doubled NOT the national debt. Big difference. But since you brought it up, the Office of Budget and Management estimates that the national debt will TRIPLE to $32 billion by the end of Obama's second term if the electorate is stupid enough to re-elect him. You are also ignoring the fact that it's the Congress that spends the money, not the President. With the exception of a few years of a Republican majority Congress in the mid 90's (who, by the way, forced Clinton to balance the budget) it has been the liberal Democrats who controlled the purse strings for the past 60 years.

What do the top 10 cities with the highest poverty rate, all have in common?

Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list)...hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1961;

Buffalo, NY (2nd)...hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1954;

Cincinnati, OH (3rd)...hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1984;

Cleveland, OH (4th)...hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1989;

Miami, FL (5th)...has never had a Republican mayor;

St. Louis, MO (6th)...hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1949;

El Paso, TX (7th)...has never had a Republican mayor;

Milwaukee, WI (8th)....hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1908;

Philadelphia, PA (9th)...hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1952;

Newark, NJ (10th)...hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1907.

Einstein once said, 'The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.'

In the past 6 months our government has spent more money than has been spent since this country was founded. It has to stop. Socialism has never worked anywhere in the world where it has been implemented. Look at what it's done to Europe... Stagnant economies, 10-18% unemployment, rationed health care, outrageous taxes, class warfare. OMG!!! It's California, your own little socialist paradise!!! Why work hard if you can't keep the fruits of your labors? Why work at all if you know the government will take care of you?

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I think someone needs to take their meds.

The current debt is 11 trillion, so another 5 trillion will not double the debt.

Most of that 11 trillion was racked up under Republican presidents.

And technically, the current fiscal year is still GWB's budget. Remember, he was forecasting about $400 billion in debt before the original $750 billion stimulus. So GWB is responsible for the first $1.2 trillion of debt this year...

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The classic liberal frame of reference is if some danger is not immediate then we should take no action against it. The threat from AQ wasn't immediate so liberals took no action against it. The threat from Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae wasn't immediate, so liberals battled against any sensible regulations to prevent the economic situation we are mired in now.

The deficit is already One Trillion Dollars, and will go up to TWO Trillion dollars by the end of this fiscal years due to Obama's reckless and inflationary budget. If Obama gets every one of his budgets during the next four to eight years, he will add five trillion dollars (doubling the national debt) just in his first term in office, and would add another FIVE trillion dollars in debt if he were elected to a second term.

In only 70 days he's already quadrupled the budget deficit that Bush had when he left office. And Obama is going to have to tax the middle class steeply (his budget increases each household's share of these deficits to around $60,000) because if you taxed the top 10 percent of taxpayers who are already paying 75% of the taxes collected, 100 percent of their income, that still would not be enough to meet Obama's budget deficits AND his annual budgets which would be at least 4 trillion a year or more for eight years=32 TRILLION DOLLARS.

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This is a synopsis of our real plight...it is actually much worse than this... please take the time and become enlightened to what is going on behind the curtain....

worlwideweb dot financialsense dot com/Experts/2008/Burrell.html

I think its time for a Constitutional Convention to restore our Republic !

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