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President Bush Will Veto Dems Sham Energy Bill... It's a Hoax

On July 10, 2008- Speaker Pelosi told the press that drilling for oil was a "hoax" and wouldn't help America deal with its energy crisis:

Yesterday, Democrats voted to keep it that way. The Democratic majority in the US House passed a bill yesterday that stifles development of offshore drilling.

President Bush said he would veto the bill. Good. The Nashua Telegraph reported:

The House voted late Tuesday to open waters off the Atlantic and Pacific coasts to oil and gas drilling but only 50 or more miles out to sea and only if a state agrees to energy development off its shore.

Democratic leaders called it a step toward energy independence, but Republicans labeled it a "sham" because most of the estimated 18 billion barrels of oil believed to lie below off-limits coastal waters are within 50 miles of land and will remain out of bounds.

The measure passed in a largely party-line vote of 236-189. It now goes to the Senate, where energy will be the topic later in the week.

Even before the House vote, the White House said President Bush was prepared to veto the measure should it reach his desk...

An administration statement said the bill would "stifle development" of offshore energy resources by essentially making permanent drilling bans within the 50-mile coastal buffer, while imposing new taxes on the largest oil companies. House GOP leaders released a statement after the vote on the Dem's sham energy bill.

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Two days ago, McCain says the "economy is strong." A day later he says "the economy is in crisis."

Throughout his career, McCain has been for deregulation of business. Now he's for it.

He's complaining about greed in business and on Wall Street and CEO's getting excessive compensation. One of his economic advisers, Fiorina, received a $21 million golden parachute when she got fired from Hewlett Packard.

Fiorina says neither Palin nor McCain would be capable of running Hewlet Packard. Obviously, the Board didn't think Fiorina, a McCain economic advisor, was too good at doing it either.

McCain is becoming more and more of a joke, but he's the great white hope for the GOP.

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good

Every industry that has been deregulated has experienced consolidation, less competition, and had to be re-regulated after some form of economic or market crisis (...with the exception of interstate trucking).

When you leave the fox in charge of the hen house good old fashion greed takes over.

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In a bid to save financial markets and economy from further turmoil, the U.S. government agreed Tuesday to provide an $85 billion emergency loan to rescue the huge insurer AIG. The Federal Reserve said in a statement it determined that a disorderly failure of AIG could hurt the already delicate financial markets and the economy.

It also could "lead to substantially higher borrowing costs, reduced household wealth and materially weaker economic performance," the Fed said.

Thank you Ronald Reagan for all your deregulation.

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Enjoy your dinner. Gotta part with your characterization of my posts (assuming that portion of your post was directed at me) as ad hominem. With respect to your exercise of free speech, meh. You jumped in an picked a thin limb to stand on. Perhaps I was a bit harsh but, oh well...I'm tippin a few and seems to me anyone treading in this forum should be possessed of skin a bit thicker than toilet tissue. Gawd knows there's plenty o' crap heaved here.

Enjoy your dinner. Fun trading barbs!

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More doubte-talk from McCain:

He's now calling for better regulation of Wall Street, but earlier this year he told the Wall Street Journal: "I'm always for less regulation."

From Philadelphia Inquirer:

McCain quickly put out a statement yesterday saying that as president he would "replace the outdated and ineffective patchwork quilt of regulatory oversight in Washington and bring transparency and accountability to Wall Street" - which is a bit rich, considering the actual fact that he has been in Washington for a quarter of a century and has a virtually zero track record as a reformer of the patchwork quilt of regulatory oversight.

.....back in the mid-'90s, when the GOP was riding high on Capitol Hill, McCain proposed a moratorium on existing federal regulations, which he insisted were wrecking "the American dream."

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You have no right to free speech on this site.

Free speech refers only to government. The owners of this site reserve, and exercise, the right of censorship.

As many of us can attest to...

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Gratutious interloper???????

Ha ha ha ha....oh shit I'm gonna die laughing.

didn't know this was YOUR forum I was intruding on otherwise i would have asked your permission to exercise my right to free speach.

I don't know des from adam and honestly I'm not a conservative or a liberal I am a free thinking american that sees the flaws in both sides and takes offense to close minded use of ad hominem.

I'm gonna take my wife to dinner....ur funny:)

I'll leave U this....

Democracy substitutes election by the incompetent many for appointment by the corrupt few. ~George Bernard Shaw

"I choose to align myself with neither the extreme right nor the extreme left for doing so limits my ability to be a free thinking american" ME!

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Gotcha

Allow me to break this down to ya

Here somes gratuitous interloper Gon, who decides to bring up an arcane piece of legislation in the midst of the central debate governing this particular forum, "Dems or Reps are responsible for this economic mess" I assume you advance this legislation as proof that the reps are not responsible. Let's look at this legislation. Advanced at a time when, yup, we had a dem pres- no doubt there BUT Who controlled House and Senate?

Then you toss out veto (bwaaaaahahahahahahahahaha) Sure, you misread my statistics. That's BS, or would you really try to debate absent a command of the facts? (that ain't flatterin, dude) Face it, conservatism has failed- and believe me, I'm far from a socialist or any of those other tags the JBS crowd would and have tossed at me. And I really don't want to see anything but a centrist gov't AT ALL LEVELS, be it state, county or municipal. But I will be damned if I'll let shills from either sides pollute minds with LIES. I've been more vocal as realates to the "liberal" agenda as response to Dest's BS spam, carpet bombing- absent that, I got faults with both sides and would be happy to share... Who but the poster boys of conservatism lead the charge? Pretty lame and you could have done better I imagine but you must have missed class on those days....

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