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User Details are only visible to members.	In these matters, and in other matters, I find it a bit odd that someone is "so concerned" with someone they don't really know, or intend to know. Or maybe I'm just cold hearted with no compassion towards people I've never met, nor intend to meet. I had an incident recently where someone basically called an "intervention" on me b/c she was "very very concerned" about me, based on what I had written on Facebook, of all places. She thought she was my good friend and knew me well based on what I had shared on there. Um. My husband had to point out that he knows me pretty well, but even after almost 9 years of marriage, would never presume or assume that he knows me completely. He said it's taken him years to get to know me at all and that no one knows all of me, b/c I don't usually let them. That said, I understand your "concern" for people in general, but know that people in general usually don't listen well to concern, and usually tend to become even more defensive. I don't have answers for that. the weight loss struggles I keep having are my own, but I'm becoming frustrated. I dont' know if I would be a candidate for by pass or any other procedure, and I would not take these to be a "quick fix," by any means. I know 5 people who've personally undergone such surgery, and 4/5 have been very successful, and have eliminated the need for any diabletes meds. The 5th has had her struggles with stomach issues, but she is also a pretty heavy drinker, and that doesn't go well with the surgery. At any rate, for those who are trying to get healthier, thumbs up, and arms and legs and calves and everything else that needs to be lifted up. Gina
San Antonio TX			Username hidden (6133 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	While I think HotIrish was out of line for giving advice where none was asked, I do not think the advice itself was exactly incorrect insofar as being so overweight is not something that your body can tolerate long-term. So since the ice has already been broken on that, I guess I'll add a few more cents. Before I do please bear this in mind - anyone who says such things is only saying so out of concern for the addressee's health, and not out of some sense of innate superiority. When you have youth on your side (I believe the OP's age was around 40) your body can tolerate a lot of abuse, but it will not be very long until problems begin - deteriorating joints, heart issues, etc. The rate of course that these things will occur depend on many factors, but for people who are very (100+ lb) overweight, the number "60" is almost universally unkind, and "70" is downright hostile. I certainly am not going to tell anyone what they should or shouldn't do, but I'm also not going to play dumb and deny that being 100+ overweight is anything but an early death sentence. How early, we cannot predict exactly, but statistics are overwhelmingly against very overweight people as they age. These things are better dealt with when people are younger and have better healing and muscle-building power, then waiting until they are immobilized and oxygen dependent. That's my quasi-professional opinion. I say "quasi" because I am not a medical doctor, but I have worked for many years in pharmaceuticals, medicinal and biochemistry, and general health care, so in this I am "smarter than the average bear". I promise you no hostility is intended with my post, and I doubt that was really the intention of HotIrish either.
Chesapeake VA			Username hidden (12182 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Ok…so, here I go again with the unpopular point of view, but, oh well. Irish….I read BiHiPoint’s profile, too, and I don’t see anywhere in there where they talk about having health issues. Unless you have some kind of psychic abilities that you haven’t spoken about, I doubt very seriously that you can tell just by looking at their pictures that they have health issues. Not all obese people have health issues. My man has had a heart attack and every doctor he’s seen assumes that he has high cholesterol. He doesn’t. His heart issues are genetic. Even a doctor cannot tell by looking at him that he has a particular ailment. As for your suggestion that BiHiPoint save up and get gastric bypass…I find it offensive for anyone to suggest an invasive surgery for someone that they don’t know. Gastric bypass is not a procedure that one should consider as a quick weight loss solution. For one thing, unless you treat the reason the person is overweight (i.e. via counseling for addiction issues, or medical treatment for medical issues) studies show that people will put the weight right back on. Surgically shrinking a person’s stomach does not guarantee that they will not be able to stretch it out again over time. Because of its invasive nature, once a person has a gastric bypass procedure, any future surgery involving the stomach area becomes a major operation with increased chances of death. And speaking of death…..gastric bypass can result in death. My friend’s husband went in for a simple gastric bypass procedure and the surgeon knicked his colon (which happens more often then people realize). He crashed and almost died 3 times over a 6 month hospital stay. He will never be the same. His entire body was traumatized by the process. So, please take into consideration that suggesting something so invasive to someone you don’t even know is a little irresponsible….if not rude and offensive.
Sacramento CA			Username hidden (71 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	BiHiPoint: Female half here. Just looked at your profile, the female half is not fat; she are morbidly obese! Please think about your health. My obese sister-in-law at 45 yrs. old just had a major stroke. She has diabetes, high blood pressure and the list goes on. Don't loose weight because you swing, loose it for your life!! Sorry if this offends you, but I feel concern for your health/longevity. Save up and have the gastric bipass surgery. "Obesity increases the likelihood of various diseases, particularly heart disease, type 2 diabetes, obstructive sleep apnea, certain types of cancer, and osteoarthritis. Obesity is most commonly caused by a combination of excessive food energy intake, lack of physical activity, and genetic susceptibility, although a few cases are caused primarily by genes, endocrine disorders, medications or psychiatric illness."
Cocoa FL			Username hidden (117 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	2tryinfor4 has it right....
Tempe AZ			Username hidden (87 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	ah, you took that figuratively, Sed, and I took it literally, as in ass=the donkey/zebra pic below the post. Maybe he'll elaborate. I really liked what 2tryinfor4 posted. Logic and reason. And honest. And appreciated. G.
San Antonio TX			Username hidden (6133 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	An ass because they have preferences? People who have no preferences are not people that we'd be interested in meeting on any level.
Colts Neck NJ			Username hidden (12740 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	There will always be asses everywhere, I love all women big or small you are all excellent in my eyes
Brockport NY			Username hidden (150 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	good points thats why we are adding more pics this weekend and yes a zeedonk!
Sacramento CA			Username hidden (10 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Well, you have weights listed, so it's not like you're lying, but I see a pic of lips, a forehead, cleavage, and both of you behind a blanketed equine. That doesn't tell very much. Is that a zedonk?
Chesapeake VA			Username hidden (12182 post)

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