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" Name me one major city that doesn’t have a rash of vanilla bars pulling that trick every week. "

I'll take a stab and say Pyongyang, North Korea. :)

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Lol touché blue. My perfunctory retort to your implicitly non-colloquial semantics is: "asked and answered" ;)

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@goodnames… Are you an elected official per chance or just practicing for when the time comes? :-) “I voted with my dollars when I chose to create an account here instead of going to a club with discrimanotry policies. If you want quality men or women, simply demand it of your venue, and accept nothing less. Create an environment that invites the kinds of people you want.”

So you chose SLS precisely because it wasn’t discriminatory. Yet, your solution is that we should demand that clubs be more restrictive and selective… which is just a politically correct way of saying they should be MORE discriminatory… Ignoring the impracticalities of determining who shall be the anointed one(s) determining/ushering in this new selection criteria for the ‘mainstream masses’ given the wide variety of tastes within the lifestyle, and since you brought up the notion of dollars, also ignoring the need to attract and maintain a minimal critical attendance for any such venue to maintain sustainability, is this ultimate vision of yours one of more or less discrimination? Your words say one thing, yet your actions clearly another...

“Or is it making money by charging her a "discounted" rate and bilking desparate men for a cover fee to come see her? If the lifestyle is becoming more mainstream then venues will have to start catering to mainstream, and stop treating it like dark and dirty back room stuff...”

Please tell how that scenario is any different than “Ladies get drinks half off on Thursday nights and as always, there is never any cover for ladies?” Name me one major city that doesn’t have a rash of vanilla bars pulling that trick every week. How can LS venues mimicking that model get anymore “mainstream?” That is EXACTLY how mainstream venues operate....

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Wow these are some Fucked up experiences yo all are speaking of! I have never even been to z Party or Club and I would know better to do what you have said! Anyone who does that doesn't respect Women much less their Partner! I hope they were ejected immediately! Let's face there are A Lot old guys with Bigger Egos than their Brains or Dicks!

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"Smooth, I would not come into your house and disrespect you."

That goes without saying.

Listen brother, do your thing. You seem to know where you're going and how you plan to get there. Have fun and welcome to the forums.

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Smooth, i would not come in to your house and disrespect you. However since this is not your house, and this not my first rodeo, I will conduct myself accordingly. I'm both gentle, and fierce as a man ought to be. I prefer to walk on the meek side, but that choice should not be confused with weakness.

It seems to me that I opted to participate in a topic that was asked of men like me, thus I am abundantly qualified to answer it as a member of that class. As is the nature of forums everywhere, some people thought they could take a cheap shot at the new guy, and offered little value by way of the conversation in that moment. I simply called it out for what it was. If that makes me a "name caller" to some, that is their prerogative as is mine to push back. I could have drawn blood, but I didn't. Nice guys are not door mats, can we agree on that? I am not so concerned with the approval of others that I will lay down my convictions simply because it's my first day. Love me or hate me for it...

There is a continuity among my posts, we're still on topic as the dialogue continues with various participants revealing the same simple truths over and over. Be glad I only use my super hero powers for good ;)

Maybe there is a need for a new breed of club? Keep the old ones for those that prefer the status quo, while offering something different that appeals to clients like me. Which one appeals to more women; Cheap fee for her and all the riffraff she can handle, or more equitable distribution of respect and cover charges, to meet interesting intelligent men with something to offer outside of bedroom antics? The only right answer is the one that's right for you...I want a choice, and I'm willing to bet there's a female clientele that does too.

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@ Allthegood, in a perfect world every problem would have a solution. we however, live in this world where some problems must be lived with rather than solved.

i have no concern with you personally other than the fact that you are already name calling people on your first day of school. we generally don't expect to see that until at least your second day of school. i will say this, and i may be completely off, and if so others will certainly let me know, but the wording of your profile and the tone of your profile don't seem to be sending the same message. maybe it's just me.

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Be part of the problem, or part of the solution, men in large part are to blame for the discrepancies. We'll throw one of our own under the bus if we think it will elevate our status, especially if a woman is present, just as bad are other men too fearful of being judged by their peers to stand up for his fellow man if he sees him being treated unfairly. When did our culture become so anti male? Life will be what you allow or cause it to be. I voted with my dollars when I chose to create an account here instead of going to a club with discrimanotry policies. If you want quality men or women, simply demand it of your venue, and accept nothing less. Create an environment that invites the kinds of people you want.

What kind of environment is you club creating? Is your club serving your needs by prostituting your wife or gf? Or is it making money by charging her a "discounted" rate and bilking desparate men for a cover fee to come see her? If the lifestyle is becoming more mainstream then venues will have to start catering to mainstream, and stop treating it like dark and dirty back room stuff...or keep doing things the same old way but wonder why the results are the same.

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I'm done typing in this thread. In the spirit of being judged by deeds not words, my next move is going to be a trip to CT. Not tomorrow or next week, but one day soon.

BlueBuzzy, I'll write first, giving you ample time to respond, and will arrive without expectations. As I understand it, there's a SM-friendly group that operates in the Windsor Locks area, too.

Carry on, oh noble SMs, SFs, and Couples!

BT

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While I have heard plenty of the horror stories from many couples, I still find that type of behavior appealing. Yes I am well aware that there are a ton of SM's that act like big dumb dogs or even worse. So I do very much recognize the degree in which SM's have become tainted. I very much acknowledge the fact that there are a ton of married men sneaking around, flakes who never show and even more that lack so much as the basic social skills. This also applies to SF as well as couples. Yes of course I do realize the big dumb dogs outnumber the others. As far as attending clubs. There are a few clubs in my area and no I do not attend as a SM due to many of the reason already stated below. I do not want to go some place I am not welcomed. I have attended several house parties, some in which any such actions would result someone being ejected from the party. I have also been to some where I have experienced that type of behavior from couples and yes it was uncomfortable to say the least. I do not waste my time with the woes me crap. Life is to short and I enjoy it way to much. So for now I attend simple meet and greet functions at public venues and basically treat people the way I wish to be treated. I find it far more easier to meet couples at a few of the local beach resorts then actually meeting them online so I rarely message anyone on here. From my perspective as the elusive single male, most of the dumb dogs at these parties, clubs and events are not really in the lifestyle. Most are there simply thinking they can get laid or their GF or wife is out of town and their screwing around! Do I think these dumb dogs hurt my plight! Absolutely not! While I am aware that they may completely turn some couples way from SM's I find that just simply being myself, having a sense of humor and social skills seems to work well for me. It will always amaze and shock me that someone would put thier hands on someone in such a manner without knowing it is welcomed. Yes I know it happens, but I don't want to ever want to become so desensitized that, that type of behavior doesn't shock me.

The elusive single male! Lol

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