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GRAND OPENING.....Michigan AfterHours Grand Opening.....Discuss this event here.....View event

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Mardigras,

I assume you are neither a swinger nor do you live in Michigan.

A few years ago a joint Wayne County task force raided a club (Peaches & Cream) in Westland (40 officers showed up with guns and handcuffs). Nearly 100 people were arrested and it cost the average person $1,500. While the charges were bogus and to the best of our knowledge, no one was actually convicted of anything, everyone had their cars towed (they used the law they use to tow cars in prostitution stings) and everyone had to post bond and nearly all hired attorneys. One-half of the couples plead no contest and paid a fine just to get the charges to go away. The other half that plead not guitly paid their attorney's $ equal to the fines. The city never actually prosecuted the cases and let the statue of limitations run on the cases.

This is just one local example. In Cleveland just this past year, the local TV station picked up on a police report about a swing club, LCDC and photographed the couples coming out of the club.

Close to us in Toledo, three clubs have closed due to local political pressure.

As we speak, the state of Arizona has closed down nearly all the on-premise swingers clubs after a long court battle. Arizona has been the test ground for a conservative right wing activist group that has been pushing to amend the laws at the local and state level to basically outlaw swing clubs. These same groups would be on a local police report in a hearbeat if they got wind of one.

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So, after all the chaos, how was it? Good crowd? Cough and cold season here, so we stayed home, but for those who went, we are curious...

College Park GA
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OK people lets think about this..the caller on the so called tape states he is calling from a hotel room, which means the call itself can not be traced to Phil..and at no point does he give a name. DId they edit that part out? Also..where is the digital marker that is present on ALL police recordings? As for the emails..Having an open bar or free beer at an event that you charge admission for IS illegal, so the people who are running these "blind pig" dances are the ones who are truely putting their patrons at risk. Also, the original email could have been altered and forwarded hundreds of times and ultimately been traced back to Phil. Notice on the "original" path they have ommitted the actualy email that Phil wrote...How do we know that is what he said and not what others changed it to be?

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OMG.....Does anybody ever get tired of the DRAMA!!! .... Gesus people if your not doing anything wrong who cares who shows up where. If we all act like adults like we are suppose to we wont have any problems regardless of who knows what and who called who and who don't like who and blah, blah , blah, blah, blah...., We are still going to the dance for the simple fact it is close to us a lot of great people live on this side of town why not go have a good time and let the owners of the clubs keep their fights to themselves. Your only involved if you stick your noise where it doesn't belong.. That being said I hope to see everyone there and having a good time.. If it sucks well then don't go again.. If it ROCKS, tell all your friends!!! I for one and many others that I know still plan on attending and having a good time.. Have fun guys and gals remember its about having fun with other like minded "adults".. MUAH!!

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LOOOOOOOK OUT! MUST READ THESE TWO REPLY"S IN THIS FORUM FROM SLS MEMBERS (ID NAMES) MIKEANDJESS and also MOTORCITY

thanks for keeping it real and letting us know what we should ALL BE AWARE of so we can make an informed choice as to whether or not we would want to associate with such a SCANDOLOUS affair.

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Anyone who is willing to overlook the facts presented should have their bags ready to join a CON artist who is manipulitive and takes advantage of anyone and anybody. Dont be suprised when you are ripped off , cheated or otherwise criminally involved with events that are related to a relationship with someone who is careless to community and lifestyle. The call made to the livonia police in an attempt to have a swingers party raided and hope for the arresst of many people in our lifestyle community is a shame ....... and please do not support or tolerate that behavior and immature CONduct. FOR A GOOD LAUGH LISTEN TO THE PHONE CALL HE MADE TO THE POLICE JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO motorcitysocials (dot) org/soundpage (dot) html this one is also very disturbing and criminally intent... www(dot)motorcitysocials (dot)org/rumorsattack(dot).html --EVEN THE POLICE OFFICER MADE HIM SOUND LIKE A REAL JACK ASS- HE OBVIOSLY HAS HIDDEN AGENDAS AND VERY SCANDOLOUS INTENTIONS

BEWAre bewARE ............. THIS CLUB SPELLS TROUBLE... LEAVE IT ALONE .....

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We will not be attending this dance. We want to make it perfectly clear that we as a couple had nothing to do with the events that have transpired and we feel it is in our best interest to not have any association with this dance. It is very unfortunate that this type of situation exists and to protect our reputation as a couple in the lifestyle we have backed out of this dance completely and disassociated ourselves from the people involved in this very embarrassing situation. We apologize to all the couples on the attendees list.

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does anyone read this stuff? is anyone concerned? tough call, but our gut feeling is that there is some extremely unhealthly aggressive competition here... we still plan on attending, because there are so many attractive couples on the list of attendees...

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Michigan AfterHours Owner Represents Serious Threat to SE Michigan Lifestyle

The behavior of the owner of this new club has resulted in near universal censure by all but one club in SE Michigan. Prior to attending you should be aware of the details:

There is currently a serious threat to the privacy and security of couples attending lifestyle functions in SE Michigan. Over the last 6 weeks we have watched this threat escalate to the point where the owner of Michigan After Hours involved the police and attempted to have nearly 100 couples arrested ten days ago.

We believe that everyone in the lifestyle community should be aware of this threat and act accordingly. If he promotes the arrest of lifestyle couples in SE Michigan as a way of building his business, consider the respect he will have for your security and privacy.

The link below documents the malicious and criminal actions of the individual involved. In particular we invite you to listen to the audio tape of this individual's conversation with the police department. We have set up a separate website for this info. Due to SLS limitations we needed to write out the web address. And yes it is "info" not com or net:

motorcitysocials dot info

If you have any specific questions we would welcome them.

Joe and Helen Hosts of MotorCity Socials

Grosse Pointe Park MI
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Do youn need to RSVP for this Grand Opening ?

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